Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
i want one example of such a couple....
Adam Poe and Capt Fantastic, I believe, might have split (sorry, if that causes offense, I thought it was publich though)
My parents have a friend who is in a monogamous relationship with another man for years now, and they do not have AIDS.
Lindsay Lohan and her partner.
Elton John and his partner.
Magic Johnson and his wife....oh...wait...there's AIDS involved there, my bad.
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
no i want an example of a "clean" monogamous couple.
your argument is that homosexuals can't have monogamous relationships?
I work with a lesbian who was in a clean and monogamous relationship for many years, and broke for reasons similar to why straight people break up.
Originally posted by King Kandy
However, you are sadly wrong.
No doubt...
The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution contain jack about Christianity.
-Art. 11. of the Treaty of Tripoli: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
-Thomas Jefferson
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies." - Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Paine, "The Age of Reason," Rejected the Bible as the word of God
Originally posted by UKRWhat do you believe? What makes you believe or not believe?
I guess the best way for me to put my belief in God is that I don't have a very strong belief or an obsession over it. I don't really have an organized religion's concept of God. I don't have the idea that people have to follow my religious beliefs or that something bad will happen to them for not doing so. I think the best way for me to describe my understanding of God is an experience in my life.
It was about 2 AM one night (I'm a night owl, no question), and all of a sudden I heard the fire alarm in the hallway of my apartment building go off. I gave it a while because I figured it was just an accident and nothing bad would happen. But after a while it didn't stop and I could smell the smoke in the hallway. Eventually you could even see the smoke wafting around in the air in the hallway. So I called the fire department. And after I called, I prayed because it was a time of desperation and I was so sure someone could die (later it turned out to be a small cooking accident caused by a woman whose race and ethnicity I won't describe here, but which I could use some colorful words to do so). Never before did I honestly, truly believe; I'd been an adamant, in fact vehement atheist my whole life. I said "Lord, I don't know what your name is or what you look like. I don't know if you're Christ, Allah, Brahman, Zeus, Yahweh, El or Buddha, but I'm in trouble now and I need your help unlike ever before". I can't tell you for a fact that there's someone up there and/or that He saved anyone's life. I can't tell you what God's name is or which, if any, of those aforementioned gods He is. All I know is that the trucks arrived on time and no one was hurt or killed. That's what I actually know for a fact. That's what I saw with my own two eyes and heard with my own two ears. I don't know if He made the trucks arrive on time or if He even exists at all. All I know is that in my mind, someone could have been in life-threatening danger, but the honest truth is that when it was all over everything was alright again and no one was burned at all, let alone to death. That's all I can tell you. This actually happened to me.
The truth is, life is not fair! Bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people. If you feel as if you had a religious experience, keep it to yourself. No one can take that away from you. And try/attempt to make sense of it, if possible. Pray about it; but maintain an open mind. Do not jump to conclusions (based on emotion). For all you know, your "experience" may have been the product of pure circumstance -- nothing more. If you wish to find truth in religion, just like anything else, it requires study -- knowledge! Take "emotion" and throw it into the trash can; it will get you nowhere. As the Apostle Paul said:
"And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile.... If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men (1 Corintians 15: 14, 17, 19, NIV).