Originally posted by The Great GalenLoki has managed to play Mephisto, Odin, and tons of other beings...
Although there really isn't even anything to suggest Thor is all that bright in general, how many times does Loki manage to decieve him....hell even his own dad doesn't have a high opinion on his intelligence.
The only time I recall Odin talking about Thor in such a way, was that Thor needed humility...
Originally posted by The Great GalenHe hasn't been played by Loki since he's become the ruler of Asgard...
Except Thor is the ruller of asgard and should be wiser to avoid his brothers deception, nor should he have allowed himself to be a lacky to a mere mortal like steve. What kind of God plays second in command to a human, IMO thor is a idiot.
He's not a lackey, he's his friend, and he trusts Cap (as well as Thor taking complete control in Ragnarok when Thor needed to do something). Besides, super genius' Hank Pym, and Tony Stark also followed Cap... guess they're idiots too.
Originally posted by Red Hulk
He hasn't been played by Loki since he's become the ruler of Asgard...He's not a lackey, he's his friend, and he trusts Cap (as well as Thor taking complete control in Ragnarok when Thor needed to do something). Besides, super genius' Hank Pym, and Tony Stark also followed Cap... guess they're idiots too.
Tony and hank don't really want to be leaders, that's the difference. Tony could easily lead as well as steve but he choses not to, to much responsibility so why bother. Thor is tailor made to be a king, yet he follows a mortal soilder. I think Loki said it best"use what little brains you have brother"...rest my case.
Originally posted by The Great GalenI used the only instance I could think off the top of my head which Thor used his brains in a "Respect Thread" worthy capacity. And Thor Reborn does appear to be a bit more of a thinker now.
Still doesn't say a lot about Thor that he is constantly under steve's orders. If his wisdom exceeds Odin then why was he never appointed the head of avengers?
As for Cap, I consider him to be the "Batman" of the Avengers. Far from the most powerful, but his brains, drive, and overall capability have him respected by everyone and they defer to him in most situations.
Originally posted by The Great GalenAnd Thor does?
Tony and hank don't really want to be leaders, that's the difference. Tony could easily lead as well as steve but he choses not to, to much responsibility so why bother. Thor is tailor made to be a king, yet he follows a mortal soilder. I think Loki said it best"use what little brains you have brother"...rest my case.
How does he have a little amount of brains if he's tailor made to be king?
Originally posted by Red Hulk
And Thor does?
...How does he have a little amount of brains if he's tailor made to be king?
Look at the way he is always constantly lead by humanity in general, hell if I was going to become the ruller of an entire society like asgard...I woudlnt be confortable being the lacky to a mortal. Orion takes more intiative and for the most part, he isnt a simple minded grunt that is okay with taking orders...he gives order which is the difference.
Originally posted by Badabing
I used the only instance I could think off the top of my head which Thor used his brains in a "Respect Thread" worthy capacity. And Thor Reborn does appear to be a bit more of a thinker now.As for Cap, I consider him to be the "Batman" of the Avengers. Far from the most powerful, but his brains, drive, and overall capability have him respected by everyone and they defer to him in most situations.
Still doesn't seem right that a God takes orders from a human.
Thor takes orders from Cap b/c he isn't an arrogant douche. He knows that Steve is a tactical genius, and that he should listen to him.
You can't generalise and say all gods wouldn't take orders from humans..
Especially as Thor is a god that has lived among humans and learnt to repsect and learn from them..
Originally posted by The Great GalenWell there are a couple of things that Thor generally does when around mortals at least when he was sent to Earth by Odin.
Still doesn't seem right that a God takes orders from a human.
He respects Steve more so than any other mortal, so why would he mind following him when he has to.
The other thing is that Thor generally has an almost Superman-esqe type complex when around mortal. Ie he generally holds back, he doesn't want to interfere to much because he knows he can, or becoming too close to mortals. That kind of thing.
Of course that isn't to say Thor can not lead. I mean who do the Asgardians always have leading the troops into battle. Why none other than Thor.
As to who wins this fight. 😱
I don't know 😐