Exposing perversity to children

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
People I am not against any person ,race or sexual preference. You are reading my post out of context.
What i am is someone who believes in the U.S. Form of Govnt. Thats all !! I think a Representative Democracy is the best form of Govt. there can be. This representative Democracy was founded on religious ideals and Moral code. This can not be disputed.

I was trying to state that Gays are not different ,with my previous posts, and should not be discriminated against. I stated the only difference is in the bedroom. If you read my previous posts I said that what goes on behind closed doors is nobodies business. My implication was that the Govt. should have no say in what goes on in the Bedroom but, apparently the "Populace" is against gay marriage. The populace has the power to put in Govt. who they choose.
As long as we have this form of Govt. and you are for this form of Govt. then you have to accept it. 🤨

You are displaying an unbelievably ignorant view of homosexuality. No, being gay isn't all about "ass-fvck". You see, being gay is about love. Love of the sexual variety.

Y'see, a gay couple is no different than a heterosexual couple, aside from the genders of the individuals involved and the sexual actions. You don't marry a woman because of sex (and only sex), now, do you? On the contrary- you marry a woman because you love her. The same applies for a gay wedding. They are two people who love each other- their love is the same as what you feel when you love a woman. You are denying them their rights and their 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".

Also, I don't give a rat's ass about what the 'populace thinks'- the rights of human beings should not be dictated by what other people think of them. Marriage is a right every loving couple has access to, andit succeeds in legitimizing homosexuality and accepting it as a natural, regular sexual orientation- which I believe you (certain others) are afraid of.

And, as people above me have noted, it's impossible to prove hetero's are not in it for 'the money'. So should we deny them marriage? Hardly. The same applies for the gays.

I believe the single most notable 'trait' of the United States is its position as a sort of 'union' for all people to live in. I don't believe it should be a "White Christian" country. I believe it ishould be where all people unite: people of races- blacks, hispanics, whites, Arabs. Genders- male, female. Religions- Christians, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims. It's time we put 'sexual orientations' in that list.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
This representative Democracy was founded on religious ideals and Moral code. This can not be disputed.

Adams, James and George Washington. “Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11.” 1796-7.

The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.

Franklin, Benjamin. Benjamin Franklin, A Biography in his Own Words. 1758.

As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion . . . has received various corrupting Changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his Divinity.

Madison, James. Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments. 1785.

During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.

Paine, Thomas Robert. The Age of Reason. 1795.

Whenever we read the obscene stories [of The Bible], the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half The Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the Word of God.

Washington, George. The Writings of George Washington. 12 vols. 1834.

The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy.

That should pretty much destroy the idea that the U.S is formed on religious/Christian principles.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
The populace are against it because people are prejudiced, un-understanding, and fearful beings. Humans simply love to hate things they cannot understand, or things that are different than they are.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, and, by god, I hope I am, but are you basically saying that certain people of varying traits should not be allowed to get the same rights as others because of... a book? Written by a fallible human?

I would have thought we would get past that sort of bigotry hundreds of years ago.

Luckily, I do think we can and are evolving past such primitive crap.

Oh and for the record, I don't think religious people have anything to stand on when they use the Bible as a means to degrade homosexuals. I don't think the Bible condemns homosexuality as we know it today.

As for the Founders...most records point to them being deists. So to say that we are founded on Christian beliefs would be wrong. A lot were also agnostics or atheists. And really, who cares what they were? We are a country of religious freedom and tolerance. More so, we are a country of freedom. No one should be seen as 'less than human' simply because of their sexual orientation. It makes no sense. You would think we'd learn from our past with the Indians, African Americans and women.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
What ever you say man. The Fact is that the country was founded on Religious ideals and Moral code. You are more interested in being seen as the genius boy on this Forum than understanding why gay people are not allowed to get married. I was Just stating a reason why. The populace is against it or there would be more States legalizing it.

GOD BLESS AMERICA 😄

If talking from a knowledgeable stance and having facts that support what you're saying is "more interested in being seen as the genius boy", then sure.

You argue from both ignorance and bias, that is why it's easy to prove what you're spouting as being false. You should try to do a minutia of research before you claim something as fact, try Google, it isn't hard.

I happen to know why gay people are not allowed to get married; it's called "injustice", rather simple, really. They're denied by the very same people who would cry havoc if that same right was taken from them, for no other reason than (some) people simply find homosexuality to be disgusting. No different than denying someone a right based on any other triviality such as skin color, ethnicity or their choice of religion.

Your view of homosexuality and what it is, or as you say "in the bed", is rather sophomoric. Like I said, homosexuality is more than just "****ing a guy in the ass". Just as heterosexuality if more than just ****ing a woman in the vagina (if you're a male).

Originally posted by BigRed
Honestly though, I'm not prejudice against the prejudice. Sadly, it is a rational human emotion to look at the 'outcast' and degrade them and so forth. We've been doing it since the beginning of our species.

Luckily, I do think we can and are evolving past such primitive crap.

Oh and for the record, I don't think religious people have anything to stand on when they use the Bible as a means to degrade homosexuals. I don't think the Bible condemns homosexuality as we know it today.

As for the Founders...most records point to them being deists. So to say that we are founded on Christian beliefs would be wrong. A lot were also agnostics or atheists. And really, who cares what they were? We are a country of religious freedom and tolerance. More so, we are a country of freedom. No one should be seen as 'less than human' simply because of their sexual orientation. It makes no sense. You would think we'd learn from our past with the Indians, African Americans and women.

This is the truth. People will forever- no matter the 'excuse' for it, be it religion or 'morality'- hate minorities. They will always be prejudiced, and they will always attack people who are different than the mainstream community.

The U.S constantly grew more and more accepting of others. Indians were nearly wiped out due to bigotry and racism; this served as a lesson. Then, women and African Americans- traditionally 'inferior' groups- eventually were granted rights, although hate crimes and discrimination against those groups still exist. The KKK is an example. And against women? Now, let's not pretend we don't live in a male-dominated society, right?

Homosexuals, like females and blacks, will eventually be granted equal rights. It is inevitable. Then people will find another minority, or traditionally weaker group to attack.

Conclusion: Humans suck.

Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Now, let's not pretend we don't live in a male-dominated society, right?

In some parts of the world, sure.

Since Thatcher over here its less of an issue.

Besides have the society you refer to never heard James Brown's "Its a man's man's world" before...?
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