Originally posted by Enyalus
If they aren't fighting underneath the Super Sun, Monarch takes this.
Or in other words, Monarch can beat a powerless Superman 1M.
Since even weakened he punched through time, so Monarch can't even take that version of him..you'd need to take him away from the sun and then wait until every last bit of power is gone, then bring Monarch in.
Originally posted by EnyalusPossibly. I mean not only would his powers be declining rapidly, but any damage he recieved wouldn't be repaired at all.
If they aren't fighting underneath the Super Sun, Monarch takes this.
However, one could argue that since Prime was able to hold his own against Monarch [when his guardian amp was nearly gone/completely gone] Superman M* should be able to do at least the same, with or without the super-sun. *shrugs*
Originally posted by Galan007
Possibly. I mean not only would his powers be declining rapidly, but any damage he recieved wouldn't be repaired at all.However, one could argue that since Prime was able to hold his own against Monarch [when his guardian amp was nearly gone/completely gone] Superman M* should be able to do at least the same, with or without the super-sun. *shrugs*
Just saying that, all fights are in a neutral universe unless otherwise stated. Meaning 1M shouldn't automatically get help from his Super Sun. And of course I think it'd be a fight. Just don't see Supes pulling a majority here. Monarch basically manhandled three Supermen at once - at least one of which was superior to current Supes. How many Supermen does Mr. 1M equal? 😛
Originally posted by Enyalus
Just saying that, all fights are in a neutral universe unless otherwise stated. Meaning 1M shouldn't automatically get help from his Super Sun. And of course I think it'd be a fight. Just don't see Supes pulling a majority here. Monarch basically manhandled three Supermen at once - at least one of which was superior to current Supes. How many Supermen does Mr. 1M equal? 😛
That's like saying flash can never win a fight because the speed-force doesn't exist in a neutral universe.
As for how many Supermen does 1M equal, well more than three. None of the Supermen Monarch fought could punch through time while weakened. Plus keep in mind 1M has 10 powers other Supermen don't due to having 5-d imp genes..
Originally posted by Enyalus
Just saying that, all fights are in a neutral universe unless otherwise stated. Meaning 1M shouldn't automatically get help from his Super Sun. And of course I think it'd be a fight. Just don't see Supes pulling a majority here. Monarch basically manhandled three Supermen at once - at least one of which was superior to current Supes. How many Supermen does Mr. 1M equal? 😛
Originally posted by xJLxKingYou mean his force field vision that could stop a moving galaxy, but is going to stop a universe destroying blast?
Lets see, maybe because he can! He has that shield using his mind(dont know the name), he can also run away by punching the time barrier, and he is stronger then Prime, so yeah
If you meant he runs away from the blast then ok, but that isn't really impressive.
Proof that he's stronger than Prime? He might have more powers, that doesn't mean he's stronger.
Originally posted by Mindset
You mean his force field vision that could stop a moving galaxy, but is going to stop a universe destroying blast?If you meant he runs away from the blast then ok, but that isn't really impressive.
Proof that he's stronger than Prime? He might have more powers, that doesn't mean he's stronger.
I'm glad I have that guy on ignore. I didn't see that post of his 'til you quoted it. He only punched through time because he was hitting a broken time portal:
Credit to Galan for the scans.
Anywho, he can't simply punch through time at will. He isn't like a Trion Juggernaut, who was punching through dimensions by hitting buildings and air.
Originally posted by Mindset
You mean his force field vision that could stop a moving galaxy, but is going to stop a universe destroying blast?If you meant he runs away from the blast then ok, but that isn't really impressive.
Proof that he's stronger than Prime? He might have more powers, that doesn't mean he's stronger.