Superman 1 Million vs. Monarch

Started by Enyalus4 pages

No feats from 1M indicate he's faster than Prime. Certainly not fast enough to outrun a universal-scale explosion from point-blank range. He also hasn't 'snuffed out' a giant star on panel, so that falls under the 'empty boast' category, too.

And IMO, Prime is stronger. And in a neutral setting - more durable.

I think everyone is forgetting the fact that unless Monarch dies as well, there will be no 'universe-busting' explosion.

Originally posted by Galan007
I think everyone is forgetting the fact that unless Monarch dies as well, there will be no 'universe-busting' explosion.

I forgot, 1M could probably survive it anyway, since his suit has a built-in boom tube.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Yes the force field, which is can be used to stall it so he can leave the universe... He is stronger then Prime because at his weakest level he punches through time barriers, but Prime at his highest can break through universal barrier. At a low power level, Superman 1M can wipe out a giant dwarf. Superman Prime can't. Superman 1 million, has forcefield, telepathy, is fasters, and stronger. I wouldn't be suprised if he is also more durable.

You're comparing holding back a galaxy to being able to hold back a universe destroying blast? 😐

Actually prime punching through the barrier wasn't at his strongest.

More powers doesn't mean he's more powerful.

What are Supes 1M feats that put him over SMP in speed and strength?

Originally posted by Galan007
I think everyone is forgetting the fact that unless Monarch dies as well, there will be no 'universe-busting' explosion.
I didn't forget, it was irrelevant to my post.

Originally posted by Mindset
I didn't forget, it was irrelevant to my post.
I was just pointing out the irrelevancy in bringing up a universe being destroyed. Because if that did happen in this battle, either:
A.) Supes would boom tube out of the way, and Monarch would die.
B.) They'd both die.

There's really no other options.

Originally posted by Galan007
I was just pointing out the irrelevancy in bringing up a universe being destroyed. Because if that did happen in this battle, either:
A.) Supes would boom tube out of the way, and Monarch would die.
B.) They'd both die.

There's really no other options.

The post that started it said they'd both die.

There ya go.

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That's what I was saying.

That's what I said to you. whatdur

I don't get it, wasn't Superman 1 Million said to be able to take out beings on The Stranger, or Tyrant's level.... perhaps even greater? Was Prime that powerful because I didn't see it from what I read, granted I missed a few of his appearances, but I don't think I missed any key power feats.

I'm not saying who wins here I was just saying that I always thought that 1 Million was the most powerful Superman ever.

I love you.

You're comparing holding back a galaxy to being able to hold back a universe destroying blast? 😐

Like I said to stall it, It would hold the entire blast, but it could hold Monarch from opening his armor. Right?

Actually prime punching through the barrier wasn't at his strongest.
Strongest? no, but he was able to fly, and fight at high level. He was able to travel at SOL and beyond. He was well above his average power. On the other hand, Superman 1 million couldn't even fly, and but had enough power to destroy a giant star, and go through time.


More powers doesn't mean he's more powerful.

He can't do nothing. He is weak against magic, he is slower, he is vulnerable from telepathy, and he has less powers. He is weaker!!

What are Supes 1M feats that put him over SMP in speed and strength?

Superman 1 million is father then a thycon,(can't spell at all). Which is thousands of times faster then SOL. He is stronger in strenght when at his full power.

I'll let Mindset pick apart that latest trainwreck. Hopefully with an emphasis on 'magic' and Superboy Prime.

Superboy Prime while younger and weakened punched through the barrier in his attempt to escape the "Paradise Universe."

Just sayin, I don't know enough about 1 Mil to say who wins this fight.

While younger and powered up by anti matter energy he escaped paradise.

While near death Superman 1,000,000 punched his way 80,000 years into the future.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
While younger and powered up by anti matter energy he escaped paradise.
I was just gonna say...

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
While near death Superman 1,000,000 punched his way 80,000 years into the future.
Pretty much. By that time Supes had become so emaciated that he was drawing upon the final stores of energy in his cells to accomplish that feat. Yet he still managed to do so.

Originally posted by Galan007
Pretty much. By that time Supes had become so emaciated that he was drawing upon the final stores of energy in his cells to accomplish that feat. Yet he still managed to do so.

And Hulk has punched through a timestorm while Trion Juggernaut punches through dimensions. I mean, exactly how strong do you need to do these feats and why does it put him over Prime in the strength category? Prime's gone through 300 mile-thick GL constructs like they were tissue paper. That takes quite a bit of power, too.

Originally posted by Enyalus
And Hulk has punched through a timestorm while Trion Juggernaut punches through dimensions.
That's Marvel. It seems like destroying universes and such is pretty much an everyday occurence for them.

I was talking about DC-ites in that post.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I mean, exactly how strong do you need to do these feats and why does it put him over Prime in the strength category? Prime's gone through 300 mile-thick GL constructs like they were tissue paper. That takes quite a bit of power, too.
The reasoning behind the post of mine wasn't to necessarily compare Prime/S1M power-wise. Just to put emphasis on the fact that when Prime actually busted out of the Paradise-dimension, he had been powered up via Alex Luthor. Yet when S1M busted back into his own time, he was at his weakest. That was my only point.

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Originally posted by Galan007
The reasoning behind the post of mine wasn't to necessarily compare Prime/S1M power-wise. Just to put emphasis on the fact that when Prime actually busted out of the Paradise-dimension, he had been powered up via Alex Luthor. Yet when S1M busted back into his own time, he was at his weakest. That was my only point.

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Oh, I gotcha.

SBP is still cooler and isn't a walking plot device.

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