Full Power Silver Surfer Vs Full Power Superman · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Space M ummy
you're thinking of the version of superman that appeared in DC 1 million. That version of superman had no on panel feats of his own. (the only thing he DID do was crush an already beaten solaris with a lantern ring.)
despite his time in the sun, there was still a VERY real concern by everyone present that Kryptonite would kill him- in fact Vandal Savage and Solaris themselves conspired to kill him by firing what they THOUGHT was a large kryptonite projectile into the heart of the sun. They succeeded, but that "kyptonite" was actually a disguised lantern ring.
Theres no source anywhere that says that version of superman was immune to kryptonite.

They THOUGHT it might, however it wasn't just the rock, it was poisoning his power source they thought might, however it's still conjecture.

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by Juntai
They THOUGHT it might, however it wasn't just the rock, it was poisoning his power source they thought might, however it's still conjecture.

Agreed.

Either way, a "FULL" power Surfer is an insane one who can't control his power as absorbing a portion of a sun drove him nearly insane and down to dumb Hulk levels of intelligence.

Meanwhile, Supes in current continuity absorbed a full sun with a smile and has no limits to his power set if we go into the DC 1 Million storyline. IE. He can power his heralds to levels far above Surfer easily.

Supes for the win.

Nihilist Senior Member

surfer easy

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

Composite Superman isn't really a different version of Supes. But an entirely different being. Like Ultraman.

Anywho, he'd whip Surfer's ass. So would 1M. And Superboy Prime has a good shot. Most, if not all other versions of Superman, should go down to a FP Surfer.

Leobama Senior Member

Man I can see that this is gonna turn into the usual.

ultimatethor Senior Member

Originally posted by Nihilist
surfer easy

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by Avlon
Agreed.
Either way, a "FULL" power Surfer is an insane one who can't control his power as absorbing a portion of a sun drove him nearly insane and down to dumb Hulk levels of intelligence.

Didn't Superman basically kill himself (to later reform) after dipping in the sun less than 15 years ago?

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Anyway, this thread doesn't make any sense. There is no upper limit on panel shown to either combatant.

Pick your favorite... that's what everyone else is doing.

kgkg Vigilante

What do you mean by Full power?

Superman has stronger/more powerful incarnation in the future.

Surfer does not(or at least not big noticeable change to his powers)

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

Originally posted by kgkg
What do you mean by Full power?
Superman has stronger/more powerful incarnation in the future.
Surfer does not(or at least not big noticeable change to his powers)

At "full power" Surfer became one with the universe. 😛

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by Enyalus
At "full power" Surfer became one with the universe. 😛

That doesn't count as anything close to Surfer's potential.

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Didn't Superman basically kill himself (to later reform) after dipping in the sun less than 15 years ago?

What are you talking about?

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Anyway, this thread doesn't make any sense. There is no upper limit on panel shown to either combatant.
Pick your favorite... that's what everyone else is doing.

An upper limit has been shown to one, while another has been shown (at least in the future that's being reffered to) to have none.

You're right though in that this thread makes little sense.

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by kgkg
What do you mean by Full power?
Superman has stronger/more powerful incarnation in the future.
Surfer does not(or at least not big noticeable change to his powers)

As Keeper he had a pretty decent upgrade though.

Too bad that doesn't count in this thread though. 🙁

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

Originally posted by Red Hulk
That doesn't count as anything close to Surfer's potential.

Yeah, I know that. Neither should entities like Superman Prime from 1M, though. Who traversed the multiverse and received various upgrades from the ends of space, etc.

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by Avlon
What are you talking about?
An upper limit has been shown to one, while another has been shown (at least in the future that's being reffered to) to have none.
You're right though in that this thread makes little sense.

Superman ended up turning into a skeleton after he sun dipped if I recall correctly. He needed to control his powers, something Surfer didn't have time to do.

No it hasn't. 15 years ago Surfer might have held this limit (although I'm sure I can find something to rule this out), but during that time and now, Surfer has absorbed enough energy to defeat a universal level being, and the side effects have torn straight through a bunch of planets.
As well as it being a low showing in the sense that Surfer was KO'ed by a planet exploding, basically.

No shit. What is full power Surfer or Superman?

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Superman ended up turning into a skeleton after he sun dipped if I recall correctly. He needed to control his powers, something Surfer didn't have time to do.

I have no idea what you're referring to. I know he's gone into the sun as a near skeleton and come out fully powered though...

Originally posted by Red Hulk
No it hasn't. 15 years ago Surfer might have held this limit (although I'm sure I can find something to rule this out), but during that time and now, Surfer has absorbed enough energy to defeat a universal level being, and the side effects have torn straight through a bunch of planets.
As well as it being a low showing in the sense that Surfer was KO'ed by a planet exploding, basically.

You forgot none of this was clean (he needed help/plot device) and none of it was stated to be kept/mentioned again. You're welcome to try and disprove it, but something to that effect would probably already be in his respect threads.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
No shit. What is full power Surfer or Superman?

A fanboy's dream? 🙂

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by Avlon
I have no idea what you're referring to. I know he's gone into the sun as a near skeleton and come out fully powered though...
You forgot none of this was clean (he needed help/plot device) and none of it was stated to be kept/mentioned again. You're welcome to try and disprove it, but something to that effect would probably already be in his respect threads.
A fanboy's dream? 🙂

The infamous sundip when he pushed Imperiex into the Boomtube. He couldn't handle it, when he first got the powers.

Oh, OK. He had a piece of the Blackbody that was inside him that never left his body, and never needs to be mentioned again if it's permanent, and minor. Hell, it was barely mentioned in the story arc.
No it wouldn't, and it doesn't need to be either to be fact. Although, in the respect thread the Blackbody piece was never stated to have left his body... so what should I be looking for here?

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by Red Hulk
The infamous sundip when he pushed Imperiex into the Boomtube. He couldn't handle it, when he first got the powers.

Superman set his mind on killing mode for B13 (which is something that goes against his ENTIRE being) and finds Imperiex is still alive thus confusing him temporarily.

Sundipping did nothing to Superman's mental state. Forum myth.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Oh, OK. He had a piece of the Blackbody that was inside him that never left his body, and never needs to be mentioned again if it's permanent, and minor. Hell, it was barely mentioned in the story arc.

Proof? It could be said that Superman never lost the magic immunity that Phantom Stranger gave him since it was never said that he lost it either.

The BB was a plot device that was used for that story (since there was no way SS was going to win without it) and has never been mentioned/seen again.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
No it wouldn't, and it doesn't need to be either to be fact. Although, in the respect thread the Blackbody piece was never stated to have left his body... so what should I be looking for here?

Something that said he kept said upgrade? Let's not play semantic games. We all know (hopefully) that such things tend to come up in later storylines specifically.

Leobama Senior Member

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Didn't Superman basically kill himself (to later reform) after dipping in the sun less than 15 years ago?
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Anyway, this thread doesn't make any sense. There is no upper limit on panel shown to either combatant.
Pick your favorite... that's what everyone else is doing.

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what I mean !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm staying out of this one! I've already learned in my short time on KMC that when someone's mind is made up, it's made up. I've tried in the past to analyze this stuff unbiasedly, but someone always finds a low showing scan or something. And the majority of the time, no one wants to involve character bios unless it supports their point so this could be another endless one.

Red Hulk Dead

Originally posted by Avlon
Superman set his mind on killing mode for B13 (which is something that goes against his ENTIRE being) and finds Imperiex is still alive thus confusing him temporarily.
Sundipping did nothing to Superman's mental state. Forum myth.

OK.

I'm going off memory, and I never said that anyway.
For about the same amount of time or so that Surfer had his power, Superman went mad and turned into a skeleton if I recall correctly.
You have the issue within reach I bet, confirm or deny.

Originally posted by Avlon
Proof? It could be said that Superman never lost the magic immunity that Phantom Stranger gave him since it was never said that he lost it either.
The BB was a plot device that was used for that story (since there was no way SS was going to win without it) and has never been mentioned/seen again.

How am I supposed to prove that he didn't lose it? It never left his body on-panel. Should I post the comic on panel, and every page from every comic that Surfer appears in afterwards? Also, the Black Body was only said to be the purpose for Surfer managing to take the power away, not for withholding the power... if you want to get technical...

Good, then Superman is immune to magic, unless we see him fail against it. Relevance to Surfer, or thread (because I know Surfer doesn't use magic)?

Originally posted by Avlon
Something that said he kept said upgrade? Let's not play semantic games. We all know (hopefully) that such things tend to come up in later storylines specifically.

No they don't. Not always anyway, especially when it's an arc in the main series (especially Surfer's main series...). Just because something isn't brought up again, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's as bad as logic as you're trying to play to me.

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by Enyalus
At "full power" Surfer became one with the universe. 😛

I know you kidding around but

that was not Surfer's Power ie he will not someday become a Universe it was given as a temporarily by the LT.

While Superman will get Stronger and Faster as we have seen Superman of the Future ie SuperBoy , S1mil , Prime etc.

The strongest version of Surfer i can think of is Surfer with QBand but even that his not his "own" power.