Man of Miracles Vs Classic Beyonder

Originally posted by Mindset
So even MoM couldn't erase them?

I thought he was omnipotent.

but hey he created them so its like they're a part of him or something

it's like asking if a true omnipotent can make a mountain he cannot lift (and the answer is no 😛)

and yeah Urizen roxors 😎

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

it's like asking if a true omnipotent can make a mountain he cannot lift (and the answer is no 😛)

Also look at my edited post.

Even if that is so, it really means nothing, immortality does not make you stronger than someone who can destroy a multiverse. Look up the character Mr. Immortal.

btw mr immortal can't be killed by conventional means but he can still be erased...?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
no but at least it means you can't lose

btw mr immortal can't be killed by conventional means but he can be erased...?

Being immortal doesn't mean you can't lose, it means you can be killed. Which was my point of brining up Mr. Immortal, he doesn't have the power close to Beyonder, he can still be beaten by Beyonder, he just can't be killed (presumably).

Mr. Immortal will be around until the end of the universe, no he can't.

Originally posted by Mindset
Being immortal doesn't mean you can't lose, it means you can be killed. Which was my point of brining up Mr. Immortal, he doesn't have the power close to Beyonder, he can still be beaten by Beyonder, he just can't be killed (presumably).

Mr. Immortal will be around until the end of the universe, no he can't.

beyonder for all his power can still be killed (guess he can't grant himself full immortality) so even he must worry about surviving. and he knows whatever he does to the other guy there's always risk that the other guy will get back to him...some day. basically the pressure's on him ^^

Urizen for example had to be locked up (again) in some greenworld prison cause they knew whatever they did he'd always be around

I doubt Beyonder would worry about someone killing him.

is pre-retcon beyonder suppose to be part of a race (beyonders) or is he like one of his kind all alone in his universe ???

Originally posted by UKR
I fail to see how an album by Styx is equal to God. In any case, the idea that mom (lol) is equal to God is nonsense, there's no reason to think he is. Image characters overall are a heck of a lot weaker than Marvel's. Image's idea of "truly omnipotent" is likely weaker than many Marvel cosmic types.

I absolutly agree. 🤘

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
and yet he can be killed, and they cannot ^__^

When was he killed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_Miracles_(comics)

This is the real link to MoM/Man of Miracles.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
When was he killed?

Where does it say he could be killed?

at one point he gave phoenix god-like powers and told her she could kill him and that if she did he would let her...or something like that

also there was this mutant called the puma - beyonder told him that he was virtually impossible to kill (in other words not plain impossible 😄)

He gave Phoenix the power to do that.

even if that's so, a true immortal would never be able to get killed no matter how much power was used (not even using equal or greater power than his)

for example MoM is fully omnipotent & more powerful then God Satan or Urizen yet even he can't kill them (even though he made them)

MoM is the supreme being of 1 universe. Beyonder is the supreme being of a multiverse that makes the entire Marvelverse look like a fly on the wall.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
even if that's so, a true immortal would never be able to get killed no matter how much power was used (not even using equal or greater power than his)

for example MoM is fully omnipotent & more powerful then God Satan or Urizen yet even he can't kill them (even though he made them)

You see this is where it gets confusing. Cuz if he cant kill them then he isnt truly "omnipotent" as there i still something he doesnt have the ability to do.

MoM was and still is the be all end all Omnipotent god of the Spawn verse. He/She takes this match.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
MoM is the supreme being of 1 universe. Beyonder is the supreme being of a multiverse that makes the entire Marvelverse look like a fly on the wall.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
You see this is where it gets confusing. Cuz if he cant kill them then he isnt truly "omnipotent" as there i still something he doesnt have the ability to do.