Originally posted by SmashBro1. You didn't actually read what I said, did you? I said Gouki was not Shin when fighting Ryu, now this is true. It is also true that he was not Shin when he destroyed the island. Why assume that Gouki did not hit Ryu as hard as he did the island? And Gouki didn't use death moves? Based on what? And he did not have alot of death moves at that point.
1. Because he's not Shin. And he didn't use any of his death moves on Ryu either.2. That was said after the list of feats were given and after I asked for proof. At that time (and still is), none of the feats for Ryu were shown to be more impressive than Chief.
As for the second quote, I wasn't "hoping" for a response from you but knew that if you did, you'd be the first to mention Scorpion and Liu Kang to make Ryu look better (which you got a habit of doing quite often with SF characters). They weren't brought up until you mentioned them.
You think I'm a filthy maggot for denying your false accusations? Crazy dude.
3. Yes it does.
Why the heck should it matter if he took blunt force when he's took a huge explosion?
2. I listed the feats, but once again, what do you want me to prove? That Ryu fought Gouki and has been punched by him? I mean really dude.
Oh yeah, you totally made this thread because you thought it was a good fight and not because in the similar Kang and Scorpion fights almost everyone agreed that Kang and Scorpion lose, right? 🙄
Who the hell are you kidding dude?
Yeah, I would say you are a filthy maggot. 🙂
3. Lul wut? So even thought Scorpion for that ending was AMPED, we should take it as a feat for normal Scorpion? 😬
Because they are different.
Originally posted by KN7JL3Under what basis is said anime canon, and that is not blunt force damage, but piercing damage, and as gay as this is, a great example is Wonderwoman, who can take a punch from Superman, but who is injured by bullets.
Someone (Classic NES) posted a real-life picture of a boulder averaging 300 tons, and by the looks of it it seemed double the size of Ryu's, so that is why I came to the conclusion a boulder the size of Ryu's is roughly about 100 tons (it could be more, or less) and as usual, no specifics are given.Demolishing skyscrapers is something Ryu using the Dark Hadou did. Does thread mention Evil Ryu? I think not. Akuma never punched Ryu with as much force he used to demolish his island because as said before, Ryu bled by a bottle. Most SF supporters claim SFA the movie show canon traits so, let's use it.
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YouTube videoAnd in case I hear this later on, Ryu being weary doesn't make him less durable. [/B]
Well actually, about the boulder, wasn't it confirmed to be as heavy as a tank?
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
They show canon capabilities of the characters, as confirmed by UDON and supported by Capcom.
Originally posted by bloodlust247Funny thing about that is based on feats, he is. Based on what both have done, Pyron's full power is greater than Belial.
well if UDON is canon ability-wise then according to UDON that would mean that Pyron is the most powerful in the Capcom universe and Morrigan (if not separated) would have evolving passed S class into something similar to him.. which in turn would mean that Pyron is basically beyond S class
Except the Morrigan thing, that was only speculation, and was not really an aspect of her character.
then why were you arguing with me over Demitri being able to destroy Jedah.. Jedah is an S class and we already know that Belial was S+ and could have killed him with one shot.. and Demitri absorbed Pyron who was stronger than or close to Belial in power.. and that's why after defeating him.. it says that Demitri was now confident he could defeat Belial.. so him defeating Jedah doesn't seem very difficult at all
Originally posted by bloodlust247Because he never absorbed or fought Pyron at full power.
then why were you arguing with me over Demitri being able to destroy Jedah.. Jedah is an S class and we already know that Belial was S+ and could have killed him with one shot.. and Demitri absorbed Pyron who was stronger than or close to Belial in power.. and that's why after defeating him.. it says that Demitri was now confident he could defeat Belial.. so him defeating Jedah doesn't seem very difficult at all
He did so to a self-weakened mortal form.
Hell, the gap between Jedah and Belial is not as great as some would have you believe either.
And Demitri has been confident he could defeat Belial before.
He was one-shot.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Because he never absorbed or fought Pyron at full power.He did so to a self-weakened mortal form.
Hell, the gap between Jedah and Belial is not as great as some would have you believe either.
And Demitri has been confident he could defeat Belial before.
He was one-shot.
and you can't just make up shit like "Hell, the gap between Jedah and Belial is not as great as some would have you believe either".. where did you get this info from.. because according to the official canon Belial could kill Jedah with one move.. i mean what are you from the Makai.. do you know some special info that we don't
and where does it state Demitri was confident.. all it says is he was an upstart who challenged Belial.. it doesn't tell us anything else about what lead up to it or anything like that..
here's the canon guide.. http://www.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/583725/25007
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. You didn't actually read what I said, did you? I said Gouki was not Shin when fighting Ryu, now this is true. It is also true that he was not Shin when he destroyed the island. Why assume that Gouki did not hit Ryu as hard as he did the island? And Gouki didn't use death moves? Based on what? And he did not have alot of death moves at that point.2. I listed the feats, but once again, what do you want me to prove? That Ryu fought Gouki and has been punched by him? I mean really dude.
Oh yeah, you totally made this thread because you thought it was a good fight and not because in the similar Kang and Scorpion fights almost everyone agreed that Kang and Scorpion lose, right? 🙄
Who the hell are you kidding dude?
Yeah, I would say you are a filthy maggot. 🙂
3. Lul wut? So even thought Scorpion for that ending was AMPED, we should take it as a feat for normal Scorpion? 😬
Because they are different.
1. Gouki could do the Shun Goku Satsu, but did he do that? No he didn't. And it's obvious Gouki wasn't fighting his hardest because he was just testing Ryu and the fact that he's not Shin also shows he was just holding back. Plus, we know he's stronger than Ryu anyway so talking like you know how hard Gouki punched Ryu is BS.
2. I posted this fight because I wanted to see who WOULD win, just like alot of other people do with topics. And the only similarity is that it's Master Chief fighting a fighting game character, that's it.
3. Just like how the Netherrealm powers Scorpion up, the Elder Gods powers him up. I mean, it's not like he got new abilities or something.
Someone who can take an explosion like the one Raiden make must also have high blunt-force durability as well. I know they're different but that doesn't mean his blunt-force durability is extremely low.
Originally posted by Sado22But you said it depicts canonical abilities. 😑
...........the fact that SFA anime is NONcanon. duh.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxCan you post the interview or whatever proof there is of this, for all the eager people to see? I think it's no surprise that for as long as I've been on this site, I haven't seen once, evidence of Udon abilities being genuinely canon. By the way, just want to point out abilities being similar to what they can do isn't genuinely (100%) canon.
They show canon capabilities of the characters, as confirmed by UDON and supported by Capcom.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxFans who are "always right." 😐
Under what basis is said anime canon
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxExample doesn't apply. Watch it again, it's blunt force damage. They didn't pierce Ryu with broken glass. They wacked him with the bottle. The sound of the bottle breaking is proof of that. Either way, if Ryu can tank island busting hits, a glass bottle, even if sharp, shouldn't do anything.
and that is not blunt force damage, but piercing damage, and as gay as this is, a great example is Wonderwoman, who can take a punch from Superman, but who is injured by bullets.
Originally posted by Dark-JaxxBy the same who claim SFA anime is canon (or use it in threads), yes.
Well actually, about the boulder, wasn't it confirmed to be as heavy as a tank?
So if they depict canon abilities, and in it they're shooting beams/disintegrating arms, and someone else is saying Hadouken only feels like a kick, there's a contradiction, something almost every fiction has.
Actually sado, the beams fored by Evil Ryu in the SFA Anime would be pretty accurate... Considering at that point he's supposed to be as strong as Akuma, and Akuma has been known to bring down all kinds of stuff with "Simple punches and kicks".
Speaking of which, I once again have to ask where that came from, the only place I've ever even seen that comparison was in Tiamat's guide, and even then he siad he made it up...
Once again, your relying on someone's oppinion as evidence...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Actually sado, the beams fored by Evil Ryu in the SFA Anime would be pretty accurate... Considering at that point he's supposed to be as strong as Akuma, and Akuma has been known to bring down all kinds of stuff with "Simple punches and kicks".Speaking of which, I once again have to ask where that came from, the only place I've ever even seen that comparison was in Tiamat's guide, and even then he siad he made it up...
Once again, your relying on someone's oppinion as evidence...
simple punch and kicks? not really.
island busting : kongoukokuretsuzan
ayers rock busting : kongoukokuretsuzan
destroy a sunken ship : tenshou kairiki jin.
it's all moves and technique. not a simple punch and kicks.