Ryu vs. Master Chief

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Actually sado, the beams fored by Evil Ryu in the SFA Anime would be pretty accurate... Considering at that point he's supposed to be as strong as Akuma, and Akuma has been known to bring down all kinds of stuff with "Simple punches and kicks".

Speaking of which, I once again have to ask where that came from, the only place I've ever even seen that comparison was in Tiamat's guide, and even then he siad he made it up...

Once again, your relying on someone's oppinion as evidence...

Which is set a number of years behimd Current Gouki in that actual cronological order of the games.

Not that it matters much, since Akuma holds back in almost every fight he's been in, as for Ryu, well he demolished buildings with a standard Hadouken while all Dark Hadou'ey.

Not that it matters much, since Akuma holds back in almost every fight he's been in, as for Ryu, well he demolished buildings with a standard Hadouken while all Dark Hadou'ey.

when? SFA anime?

Right, I forgot that IV was before III (or something like that)

Though Akuma holding back and Ryu demolishing a building doesn't tell me beams are something they can canonically do.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
island busting : kongoukokuretsuzan

I didn't realise that Gouki could travel through time.

Originally posted by SmashBro
1. Gouki could do the Shun Goku Satsu, but did he do that? No he didn't. And it's obvious Gouki wasn't fighting his hardest because he was just testing Ryu and the fact that he's not Shin also shows he was just holding back. Plus, we know he's stronger than Ryu anyway so talking like you know how hard Gouki punched Ryu is BS.

2. I posted this fight because I wanted to see who WOULD win, just like alot of other people do with topics. And the only similarity is that it's Master Chief fighting a fighting game character, that's it.

3. Just like how the Netherrealm powers Scorpion up, the Elder Gods powers him up. I mean, it's not like he got new abilities or something.

Someone who can take an explosion like the one Raiden make must also have high blunt-force durability as well. I know they're different but that doesn't mean his blunt-force durability is extremely low.

2. Sure you did. 🙂

3. Are you intentionally being this dense? The Elder Gods powered him up, in other words, making him MORE POWERFUL, so he could do things he could not do normally. Like beat Onaga.

True, I would agree that he can take a fiar amount of punishment, but inconsistencies such as these happen often in games.

He managed to use a move ten years before he actually invented it? I didn't realise that Gouki could travel through time

YEAH!

And then Gouken explains that he came here to train Ryu to be stronger to defeat Gouki himself, and as Gouken goes back to his time to be killed by Gouki, he reveals one fact to Ryu and friends after finally defeating Gouki, he is in fact Jesus Christ reincarnated to die again as a martyr by Gouki(who is actually the Anti-Christ) in order to have humanity forgiven for all its sins once again.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
He managed to use a move ten years before he actually invented it?

I didn't realise that Gouki could travel through time.

I have no other explanation.

their stances are similar and like I said, it's a bull**** if he can sink an island(which you said big) with a simple punch but while he used his super move to bust a mountain. even the mountain didn't crumbled just like the island and the mountain was only split in two.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. No, but that is his only instant death move for anyone at that point. Gouki was not Shin. But was hunched over, as if in pain. And he admitted Ryu was formidable, and was stalemated by him, which excited Gouki as it was the closest anyone has gotten to beating him(although arguably Gouken beat him). He is stronger than Ryu, yeah. But he was stalemated while not Shin. Which is factual. And your basis that Gouki pulled his punches on Ryu is BS. And an island shattering punch at 1% of its power would be better than any of Chief's punching feats.

2. Sure you did. 🙂

3. Are you intentionally being this dense? The Elder Gods powered him up, in other words, making him MORE POWERFUL, so he could do things he could not do normally. Like beat Onaga.

True, I would agree that he can take a fiar amount of punishment, but inconsistencies such as these happen often in games.

1. Umm...what?🤨 Okay, suppose Gouki was just getting up, which is why he looks hunched over? Or maybe that's because he's just powering (which explains the aura)? Those two are way more likely than him being in pain, as he pretty much implied that that fight was just "child's play" so there's no way Ryu could have been close to beating him. Not only that, the only thing that really interest Gouki was that Ryu had the potential to unlock the Dark Hadou, hence "When the Evil Intent awakens within you, then you will know". The fact that he really wants Ryu to use the Dark Hadou so that they can have a real fight clearly shows that he wasn't serious in this fight. It was just a mere test, that's all.

2. It's true.

3. Well duh! If someone's powered up enough, they can do plenty of things they couldn't normally do. 😐

True but I don't see anything inconsistent about this one though.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
I have no other explanation.

their stances are similar and like I said, it's a bull**** if he can sink an island(which you said big) with a simple punch but while he used his super move to bust a mountain. even the mountain didn't crumbled just like the island and the mountain was only split in two.

And the KKSZ is a move that is designed to split in half, and piercing damage is often-times more effective than pure blunt force.

Originally posted by SmashBro
1. Umm...what?🤨 Okay, suppose Gouki was just getting up, which is why he looks hunched over? Or maybe that's because he's just powering (which explains the aura)? Those two are way more likely than him being in pain, as he pretty much implied that that fight was just "child's play" so there's no way Ryu could have been close to beating him. Not only that, the only thing that really interest Gouki was that Ryu had the potential to unlock the Dark Hadou, hence "When the Evil Intent awakens within you, then you will know". The fact that he really wants Ryu to use the Dark Hadou so that they can have a real fight clearly shows that he wasn't serious in this fight. It was just a mere test, that's all.

2. It's true.

3. Well duh! If someone's powered up enough, they can do plenty of things they couldn't normally do. 😐

True but I don't see anything inconsistent about this one though.

2. K

3. ...Then why are you using it as a feat for NORMAL Scorpion? 😐

Well...Onaga has no other durability feats, but that one. 😐

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Why would Gouki be getting up...Did he go to sleep while fighting Ryu? I supposed you're going tell me Ryu tucked him in and read him a bed-time story too? And he has never powered up in such a way before. And he admits Ryu was the closest to ever beating him. He wants Ryu to use the Dark Hadou to have an opponent who he can unleash his full(Shin) power on.

2. K

3. ...Then why are you using it as a feat for NORMAL Scorpion? 😐

Well...Onaga has no other durability feats, but that one. 😐

1. It's not like they're never gonna get knocked down or something. I mean, it's a fight, dude. 😐 And he didn't say that. He said nothing about Ryu almost beating him. Infact, he implies just the opposite; he considered the fight "child's play" so Ryu couldn't have almost won. I told you this already.

3. What's the difference? It's just simply Scorpion stronger than before. Alot of characters get stronger. Ryu gets stronger, that doesn't mean he's not normal Ryu.

And this suppose to mean...?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Dude, how many ways are there to punch the ground?

And the KKSZ is a move that is designed to split in half, and piercing damage is often-times more effective than pure blunt force.

actually I don't want to talk about this... but OK.

just look at how he punch a ground while Gouki sank an island and when he bust an ayers rock. the stance is same and the crack is almost same too. and look at when Gouki sank the island. his aura glows. it's not a normal punch.

and please notice about the crack caused by KKZ. it's not split ayers rock in half but it cracks more than one crack. so we can't say it's a slash type attack.

Ie impact zone on ayers rock wen't 4 ways, but as you go ouy, they probably conjoin back into 2 to form the split. That still makes it a slashing attack, otherwise the rock wouldn't have split in 2, it would have disintegrated in a web of interlacing cracks and crumbled to the ground, much like the island...

Originally posted by SmashBro
1. It's not like they're never gonna get knocked down or something. I mean, it's a fight, dude. 😐 And he didn't say that. He said nothing about Ryu almost beating him. Infact, he implies just the opposite; he considered the fight "child's play" so Ryu couldn't have almost won. I told you this already.

3. What's the difference? It's just simply Scorpion stronger than before. Alot of characters get stronger. Ryu gets stronger, that doesn't mean he's not normal Ryu.

And this suppose to mean...?

3. ...Because Scorpion can do things he would not be normally able to do while at his base form...Not amped...How are you not getting this?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
actually I don't want to talk about this... but OK.

just look at how he punch a ground while Gouki sank an island and when he bust an ayers rock. the stance is same and the crack is almost same too. and look at when Gouki sank the island. his aura glows. it's not a normal punch.

and please notice about the crack caused by KKZ. it's not split ayers rock in half but it cracks more than one crack. so we can't say it's a slash type attack.

2. Take a buzzsaw to a rock, and I guarantee there will be more than one crack. And as DSZ just said, obviously it is different, as Ayer's rock was split, Gotenkou crumbled.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. If he got knocked down, guess Ryu was a more serious opponent than you are attempting to prove. 🙂 And when did he say Ryu was child's play?

3. ...Because Scorpion can do things he would not be normally able to do while at his base form...Not amped...How are you not getting this?

1. By serious, you mean...? And Gouki said in the ending that "all these past battles will seem like child's play".

3. Scorpion get stronger regardless, since he be in the Netherrealm. In the end, he get stronger but just from a different power source.

Originally posted by SmashBro
1. By serious, you mean...? And Gouki said in the ending that "all these past battles will seem like child's play".

3. Scorpion get stronger regardless, since he be in the Netherrealm. In the end, he get stronger but just from a different power source.

3. The thought that the Netherrealm can even equal the power of the Elder Gods is laughable at best.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. By serious? Wtf? And how is that referring to Ryu as child's play? It doesn't, he is saying that if they were to both battle with the Dark Hadou, it will be a greater battle than any before.

3. The thought that the Netherrealm can even equal the power of the Elder Gods is laughable at best.

1. Yeah, explain because that could mean alot of things. And that's not what Gouki was saying. He said "battles", obviously not referring to any of the fights they've been since this is their FIRST fight. He's talking about all the fights Ryu will be in before he unlocks the Dark Hadou, which is what he talking about the whole time.

3. Who said anything about the powers of the Elder Gods? All they simply did was power up Scorpion, not give him their abilities.