aquaman vs namor

aquaman in both

Originally posted by Philosophía
Being 10 times weaker than John's level is still an exceptional level.

all orin has is the TP. Namor stomps h2h, and still wins otherwise. especially in the water, where he is stronger than the strongest base non-cosmic/uber out there, hercules

Originally posted by namorsubby
MM is not the highest level TP out there, being ten times worse certainly doesn't make orin high-level TP.

He is one of the highest.

And I don't really care about the Aquaman's telepathy vs Namor's resistence match, since I don't know enough about Namor's, I was just making a statement.

MM being only 10 times the telepath you are isn't really degrading for a person, considering how good he is.

I do believe that Aquaman was being self deprecating, and I doubt that we should take his statement of '10 times' as being an accurate measurement. Come on. Ha, anyway, Aquaman took control of Superman when he was unconscious, using him as a puppet. He took control of Commander Steel, he's influenced Vixen, he took control of Green Lantern's ring from, like, twenty yards away with PURE WILLPOWER. He completely shamed a White Martian (who are themselves telepaths of not inconsiderable strength) and gave him seizures by shutting down part of his brain. He did something similar to Power Ring if my memory serves me correctly (I'm not sure about it though). Aquaman has a LONG history of his telepathy affecting non marine life. Heck, at one point in the Bearded-Loser-Look run, he reached into the minds of EVERY ATLANTIAN at the same time, did some funky stuff, and forced them to stop whatever it was they were doing. Tearing Namor's thoughts apart would be child's play to Aquaman if he wanted to.

Now, about all of these speed feats of Namor...can we see some scans? I know I've read TONS of examples of Aquaman moving at incredible speeds.

Aquaman pwned Kyle under water 😐. Hes a Herald level character by the way.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Aquaman pwned Kyle under water 😐. Hes a Herald level character by the way.

i've seen a multitude of feats from orin. he has a few very high end feats and many many more low showings. on average, he barely approaches namor physically.

namor's resistance:

1. namor is completely immune to the control of puppetmaster after having used his willpower to break free of his hold.

2. namor is completely immune to hypnosis

3. namor once cast dr.strange astral form from his body through pure willpower while strange was trying to control him.

4. namor has broken out of an illusion created by adam destine

5.symbiotic man was unable to control namor.

6.doctor doom states that namor willpower is one of the greatest ever.

7.namor has broken out of an illusion that even hulk's legendary willpower couldn't get through. silver surfer also failed.

Kyle has no low showings 🙂

batman and deathstroke have beaten aquaman. and joker.

Not really, it is just another example of Aquaman fighting smart. He taunts Kyle, who pursues him to incredible depths. They have a running fight, but finally Kyle begins to be effected by the pressure. He eventually blacked out and Aquaman rescued him.

Low showing for Kyle.

Illusions are sensory no? Aquaman gets into the heads of beings its hard to shake somebody out your head I don't see your examples as solid proof.

Originally posted by BentonGrey
Not really, it is just another example of Aquaman fighting smart. He taunts Kyle, who pursues him to incredible depths. They have a running fight, but finally Kyle begins to be effected by the pressure. He eventually blacked out and Aquaman rescued him.

😐

Fail.

aquaman is not a proven TP. he's never went up against someone like namor with TP.

so him overwhelming doctor strange isn't proof. what about symbiotic man? and puppetmaster?

BTW, illusions are mental.they affect your senses. ever had a hallucination? it's all in your head. so the feats stand.

Originally posted by namorsubby
batman and deathstroke have beaten aquaman. and joker.

Well, Deathstroke also got his butt handed to him by a blinded Aquaman whom his best blows couldn't hurt. In the same issue he managed to get away from Green Lantern, but couldn't take Aquaman out. As for Batman and Joker, well, I am sure that we could find plenty of low showings for Namor if we wanted. I imagine if we looked hard enough we could probably find an instance of him losing to Squirrel Girl.

Losing to Squirrel Girl isn't a low showing...

his lowest are wolverine and spidey. gross contradictions to his rich track record.

vs hulk: about 16 stalemates, 2 wins

vs thor: about 4

vs captain marvel: 1 win, 1 stalemate

vs herc: 6 stalemates

vs beta ray bill: 1 win

vs silver surfer: 2 or 3 stalemates

vs doctor doom: 1 win, 1 or 2 stalemates

these are just off the top of my head.

Aquaman has his water hand....the end 😐

Aquaman already beat Namor.