Originally posted by namorsubbynamor was already worn out from the battle...hence why the killer whale crushed him.
lol, cute how you did that there.anyway crushing the class A 100 tonner namor with an 8 ton whale is gabage. he's had a mountain crumbled on him and lifted it away. don't like bad writing is all
Actually, I imagine that many people referring to the crossover were referring to the other one, in which Aquaman took down an army of Atlantians with his TP. He wasn't even targeting Namor, but Namor was still almost knocked out. Given Aquaman's demonstrated ability to affect someone who only has a tiny, minuscule connection to marine life (the White Martian), it is logical to assume that he could do much, MUCH more to someone who is HALF marine life.
i have the comic.
namor said right before the whale hit him that he was far from immobilized. they both had just left the water. namor wasn't close to worn out.
really, this guy has shoved a dirt-clog down thor's throat and lived(in good health afterward) to tell about it. he's recently been engaging sentry in the avengers/invaders series. he embarassd ares and wonderman at the same time.orin's outclassed.
Originally posted by namorsubbyWell, the DC dials go to 11.
i have the comic.namor said right before the whale hit him that he was far from immobilized. they both had just left the water. namor wasn't close to worn out.
really, this guy has shoved a dirt-clog down thor's throat and lived(in good health afterward) to tell about it. he's recently been engaging sentry in the avengers/invaders series. he embarassd ares and wonderman at the same time.orin's outclassed.
Originally posted by snoopdoggthat's a contradiction.
Hercules>Namor.Even underwater.
namor was once engaging herc underwater and he stated that he was stronger there. herc said something like "that may be so, but...."
ie, that means namor is stronger underwater.
there's also an instance in the wwh series where namor stated that he is stronger than herc underwater. again herc doesn't disagree and is wary to try him there.
Originally posted by namorsubbyWell I can say I'm stronger than Mark Henry but that' won't make it true.
that's a contradiction.namor was once engaging herc underwater and he stated that he was stronger there. herc said something like "that may be so, but...."
ie, that means namor is stronger underwater.
there's also an instance in the wwh series where namor stated that he is stronger than herc underwater. again herc doesn't disagree and is wary to try him there.
BTW you have any scans of this? Mine clearly shows Herc. as the stronger.
Originally posted by namorsubbySo now Aquaman can't touch Namor? So Namor is a uber speedster now? Aquaman has tagged faster people it won't be that hard but I give up nobody can beat Namor I see that now.
so in other words he'll have to grab the faster/stronger/more skilled namor to dehydrate him?
I won't get into this fight again and I've come to respect namorsubby a lot with his amazing work on his respect threads (Hammond is sick)
I also give a slight edge to Namor in strength.
But with his speed, telepathy and Water Hand (control over water anyone) it is entirely possible that Orin takes a majority.
Plus I don't think that anyone denies that Orin who has bested class 100 characters before on strength alone can hurt Namor physically.
And on the low showings part.
I completely accept that.
Aquaman before PAD started writing him was a completely different WEAKER character.
If this is the version of Orin (he wasn't event called Orin before PAD) he has only his superior speed and telepathy to show and Namor can take a majority.
BUT after PAD we are talking an entirely different kind of beast.
Faster, tougher, stronger, far greater telepathy, water hand and two POWER UPS.
From Poseidon and from Lady Of The Lake.
This Aquaman doesn't have that kind of low showings and can take a majority from Namor.
it's not the fact that he says he's stronger. it's that herc acknowledges him.
btw, he had herc in a hold while he was saying it. check in the "namor vs herc section"
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144124.0.html
really orin just doesn't measure up.on average his showings aren't great anyway. respect threads only show the good, remember that. could he achieve something like a stalemate against thor? or blackbolt? or sentry? can he trade blows with someone like hulk or abomination or herc? can he outmanuever someone like spiderman or venom or wolverine? if i made a match of aquaman against some of the guys namor has beaten and/or stalmated, people would certainly call it spite. that's why namor takes the victory here.
Originally posted by namorsubbyHe had Hercules in a hold but Hecules got out of it right after. And iirc that was mortal Hercules.
it's not the fact that he says he's stronger. it's that herc acknowledges him.btw, he had herc in a hold while he was saying it. check in the "namor vs herc section"
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144124.0.htmlreally orin just doesn't measure up.on average his showings aren't great anyway. respect threads only show the good, remember that. could he achieve something like a stalemate against thor? or blackbolt? or sentry? can he trade blows with someone like hulk or abomination or herc? can he outmanuever someone like spiderman or venom or wolverine? if i made a match of aquaman against some of the guys namor has beaten and/or stalmated, people would certainly call it spite. that's why namor takes the victory here.
Originally posted by namorsubbyOH and BTW in their last encounter Hercules stated he's beaten Namor before and Namor didn't call him on it. So I guess that means Hercules beat Namor.
hercules didn't break free of it by his strength, he broke the ground they were standing on. and herc acknowledged it so that all that matters
it didn't say. and what am i "sadly mistaken" about?
1. herc's response was an acknowledgment of namor's statement. just because he didn't say "you're right namor, you are stronger underwater", doesn't mean he wasn't agreeing.
2.herc broke the ground they were standing on to escape his grip. he used his skill to escape because he couldn't break free with strength.he didn't overpower namor because he couldn't.
anywho, i feel it's about that time to put this pup down and agree to disagree. i think namor's superior physicality, experience, and skill grant him the win.not to mention his consistent, superior feats. some say otherwise. either way it's all good.
Namor FTW, in my humble opinion.
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someone said earlier that they respect me and like my work on threads. thanks, sincerely, really. sometimes i feel the work isn't worth it......and then there comes a post such as that.makes me feel all mushy inside. thanks again. 😄
Originally posted by namorsubby
it didn't say. and what am i "sadly mistaken" about?1. herc's response was an acknowledgment of namor's statement. just because he didn't say "you're right namor, you are stronger underwater", doesn't mean he wasn't agreeing.
2.herc broke the ground they were standing on to escape his grip. he used his skill to escape because he couldn't break free with strength.he didn't overpower namor because he couldn't.
anywho, i feel it's about that time to put this pup down and agree to disagree. i think namor's superior physicality, experience, and skill grant him the win.not to mention his consistent, superior feats. some say otherwise. either way it's all good.
Namor FTW, in my humble opinion.
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someone said earlier that they respect me and like my work on threads. thanks, sincerely, really. sometimes i feel the work isn't worth it......and then there comes a post such as that.makes me feel all mushy inside. thanks again. 😄
Don't even mention it.
And I really mean it, your respect threads kick ass.
I wish I had time to revamp the Aquaman respect thread and maybe do a Dr Mid-night one (stop laughing all of you!!! Dr Cross kicks ass 😄 😄 ) but university takes a lot of time.
While pre-PAD Aquaman may have been inconsistent at times, he was far from a weaker (or slower) character on the whole, and there are plenty examples of his other powers that pre-date the more famous examples. Be that as it may, Namor is simply not faster. In fact, he is likely slower than Arthur, which, in my opinion would counteract the strength factor in a fight. That being said, as someone acknowledged, with the water hand he could dehydrate him (and despite his speed advantage, he DOESN'T HAVE to touch him to do so), given his complete control over water. As far as Namor stalemating Thor, well, Aquaman stalemated Ultraman...think about that for a moment. He has also fought gods (and WON) and has fought and bested characters every bit as impressive as Namor's own conquests. In a straight physical match, yes, Arthur has the disadvantage because Namor is stronger and a little tougher (maybe), but given the entirety of his powers, Arthur simply DESTROYS Namor.