Naruto vs The Avatar

Started by Terryc2504 pages

Dude, Amaterasu doesn't shoot out like a normal Katon jutsu, or else they would have shouwn it like this:

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.15590/page.11/

http://img05.nj.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/42-389.0/compressed/naruto_389_fh.naruto_389_14.jpg

Kishi draws it with a tail, to show that its firing in the direction, amaterasu simply just appears as it is always shown, and follows his eyesight as he has his amaterasu activated.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
I'll address this tomorrow you persistent jackass.

😆

I love you. 😐

Originally posted by Terryc250
How would Amaterasu backfire? Amaterasu is stronger then any of Ozai's flames.
amaterasu is a desperation move, it has horrible side effects (sasuke is going blind already).

Originally posted by Terryc250
Yes the flame MEETS where his eye is focused at, a ball of fire doesnt shoot out of his eye ball at its target.

.. who said anything about it shooting out of his eyes? I never said that. I said that it's created first and then it htis the target. It doesn't just appear [o]on[/i] the target.

Itachi activates it, and the fire appears/converges/meets where his eye is focused on

It converges.

Look at the pictures, the flame follows his viewsight, its not constantly shooting out flames

Who said anything about it being "continuous"? And it follwoing his view site doesn't contradict anything I've said... He aims with eyes. So?

The fire is meeting/converging where his line of sight is.

Right on. If we were to use a metaphor for it I'd say that the eyes act like the cross-hairs of a gun. The attack will occur between the cross-hairs. But that still doesn't contradict anything I've said...

That one of Sasuke shows what Sasuke is focusing on,

Prove it. Human eyes don't "zoom" in on things so it wouldn't make sense.

then in the next page it shows it on fire, it never ever showed Amaterasu shooting at anything, it simply shows Amaterasu appearing where he focuses on.

That's not how I interpreted it.

Intent to kill as in directly hit a person,

Ah, gotcha. I thought you were trying to say something ridiculous...

It burned what it was caught on right away, Sasuke used a

[quote]Probably to show that Sasuke put it out so fast that she didn't even have time to go underwater.

I'm not sure about that. If you lay on water flat on your back you float a bit before sinking, I think that's viable. I won't press the issue though, my point here is shaky at best...

How did it not hurt her clothes? It disintegrated the part that it touched. [/B]

Just checked and you're right.

Dude, Amaterasu doesn't shoot out like a normal Katon jutsu, or else they would have shouwn it like this:

I never said it did. 😐

And the second link doesn't work btw.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
.. who said anything about it shooting out of his eyes? I never said that. I said that it's created first and then it htis the target. It doesn't just appear [o]on[/i] the target.

You're saying it shoots at people 😐 It was never shown to shoot at anyone


It converges.

Yes at his eye, he aims at a spot and the fire meets it there, its not shot at there.

Who said anything about it being "continuous"? And it follwoing his view site doesn't contradict anything I've said... He aims with eyes. So?

Yeah it manifests where he is focused on, and it follows his eyesight as amaterasu is on.


Right on. If we were to use a metaphor for it I'd say that the eyes act like the cross-hairs of a gun. The attack will occur between the cross-hairs. But that still doesn't contradict anything I've said...

=\ It has never shown to shoot at anything..

Prove it. Human eyes don't "zoom" in on things so it wouldn't make sense.

Mangekyou isn't "human eyes" its simply shows what Sasuke is focused on, see the first it shows the panel has the focus effect on Sasuke's mangekyou, then it shows from its point of view with that same 'focus' effect as it zooms in at what he's focused on, there is no amaterasu fire.

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.66377/
No fire at all

then
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.66377/page.2/
amaterasu manifests at where he was focused on.


I'm not sure about that. If you lay on water flat on your back you float a bit before sinking, I think that's viable. I won't press the issue though, my point here is shaky at best...

Not really.. you have to move around to stay floated, if you don't mvoe your body at all and just fall asleep, you'll fall right in.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
If they were burning with the same intensity then how come the portion of the wall with the flames still on it didn't burn away?
Thats what I was trying to explain. That only the flame thats focused on burns with that intensity and the flame that isnt doesnt burn the same. As you can see in the toad stomache

Then why were those trees that had been hit by it during the Sasuke vs. Itachi fight still standing for so long?

Karin's cloak was hit way before Sasuke tried to cancel the thing, yet it was barely scorched

Face it: Amaterasu is weaksauce

Wow are you not understanding what im saying

Active Amaterasu(Amaterasu flame thats being focused on a target)=Burns with the intensity of so called sun

Latent Amaterasu(Amaterasu flame that is not being focused on a target)=Burning as hot as regulare fire most likely but still cant be exstinguished.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Then why were those trees that had been hit by it during the Sasuke vs. Itachi fight still standing for so long?

Karin's cloak was hit way before Sasuke tried to cancel the thing, yet it was barely scorched

Face it: Amaterasu is weaksauce

You can't even see the trees, all you see is big black flames, if the amaterasu was put out, there would probably be nothing there.

Karins cloak was on fire for like a second, and the part that was on fire was totally disintegrated.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Wow are you not understanding what im saying

Active Amaterasu(Amaterasu flame thats being focused on a target)=Burns with the intensity of so called sun

Latent Amaterasu(Amaterasu flame that is not being focused on a target)=Burning as hot as regulare fire most likely but still cant be exstinguished.

This was stated.... when?

You can't even see the trees, all you see is big black flames, if the amaterasu was put out, there would probably be nothing there.

Karins cloak was on fire for like a second, and the part that was on fire was totally disintegrated.

Fail

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/394/01/

Trees are still standing way after Amaterasu was used

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/394/03/

Can't even burn a snake

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/06/

Here you see it's all over her body

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/415/07/

Burning on her coat

Not to mention it didn't even kill Killerbee

Well Kirabi kinda faked his defeat to take a "vacation" to be fair...

Speaking of which, wtf ever happened with the Kirabi and Raikage plot?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well Kirabi kinda faked his defeat to take a "vacation" to be fair...

Speaking of which, wtf ever happened with the Kirabi and Raikage plot?

Put on hold, like most good plots in Naruto

1. Aang: AS puts him on a whole 'nother level, even his kyuubi powers wouldn't get him close enough to Aang who can launch attacks from a long distance away with the whole damn arena or whatever as his weapon. Unless Naruto's new jutsu we haven't seen yet can mess stuff up from far away, he can't touch him.

2. Sasuke: My working theory is that the Sharingan wouldn't be able to follow the bending, since chi is to Avatar what chakra is to Naruto(even though Avatar uses the term chakra too it's more in the traditional sense), still Zuko gets overwhelmed eventually because he just doesn't have the same mobility or stamina as Sasuke.

3. Since the only Fire Lord we've seen was during the comet, we'd have to say that's the version that'd fight. I think he'd give Itachi a quick run, but unless Ozai knows about genjutsu before hand, that'll get him and the fight is over in a few minutes.

4. Sakura's only edge is her strength, so she'd pummel any boulders flung at her, but I don't see her compensating for Toph going underground and attacking from below, or kicking up a bunch of dust and using zero visibility to her advantage.

5. Katara freezes Hinata's butt cold. No need for further break down as I don't know jack about her.

6. Asuma puts up a decent fight but a blast of lightining to his face ends the fight.

I must say. amaterasu is extremely fast. The fact that it cought sasuke while he had CS2 on proves its fast as hell. faster than any of the characters in Avatar.

...Actually, didn't Zuko like, actually move to block lightning after it was fired in Sozin's Comet?

Good point, I forgot about that. He's also got extreme hops. In The Boiling Rock he jumped up atleast 9 feet up and 20 something feet forward to catch up to a tram.

...No but going by that...He moved at near lightning speed.

I must say the way lightning was protrayed is way different. its like Ozai summoned the ligntning into him and then channeled it out at him. I dont think the lightning kept with the same actaul speed of lightning. And the way they did it was slow as hell

Also @ Endless Mike. It shown to be so in the manga. As i showed eitrher on this page or last page

Not everyone who does it is slow, Ozai for example on Day of the Black Sun.

But in Sozin's Comet, Azula's lightning was already fired, he had to move after it was fired, jump, and take the hit while partially redirecting it as well.

Thing is. It came from a person and not from the actual sky, So its doubtble that it was as fast as natural lightning