Great Darkness Saga Darkseid Vs Thanos

Originally posted by Allankles
Of course the difference is Darkseid actually takes out skyfathers like Time Trapper with his own power.

Without artifacts Thanos just isn't powerful enough to get victories over skyfathers.

And in that list the only one who's DS level is Odin. PG Thor at best can pwn SS and Strange he isn't anything above Time Trapper or Mordu both of whom are powerful Skyfathers.

PG Thor wrecked a team of badasses which included the good old doctor.

Seid lost control of his advantage and ran away and didnt want to play anymore.

Originally posted by Allankles
Of course the difference is Darkseid actually takes out skyfathers like Time Trapper with his own power.

Without artifacts Thanos just isn't powerful enough to get victories over skyfathers.

Thanos, using his own power, has absorbed and defeated a universe-destroying entity. Who was very clearly above skyfather level.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos, using his own power, has absorbed and defeated a universe-destroying entity. Who was very clearly above skyfather level.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Can't say I ever remember this happening.

The Rot. Think "Entropy-lite."

And where would this story be located?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And where would this story be located?

In an Avengers work titled "Celestial Quest." Ran from '01-'02 I think.

Originally posted by Enyalus
In an Avengers work titled "Celestial Quest." Ran from '01-'02 I think.

Thanos clone (apparently) got Death to pump him full of energy which he absorbed, and sent it into Rot's faceses to destroy him.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Thanos clone (apparently) got Death to pump him full of energy which he absorbed, and sent it into Rot's faceses to destroy him.

That's not what happened.

Mantis' son (forget the kid's name, Qoui or something), had absorbed some half of Thanos' power. But he needed it to help Death defeat the Rot. So Qoui gave it back...gave Thanos back his own power. He and Death went into the Rot to attempt to defeat it. It basically ate any and all power they threw at it and was killing them both. Thanos is forced to go against his nature in order to help Death defeat it - but it is Thanos who is the one to absorb the entirety of the Rot. Thanos is the one who releases all the energy back into the universe:

And Thanos is the one who beats it.

And death is standing right there but not willing to do a damn thing...right sorry but I don't believe that thanos did that all on his with death just being a cheerleader,not that it matters since again DS and timetrapper are in the same class and timetrapper is the embodiment of the ultimate destructive force(hint beyond universal),anything else?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And death is standing right there but not willing to do a damn thing...right sorry but I don't believe that thanos did that all on his with death just being a cheerleader,not that it matters since again DS and timetrapper are in the same class and timetrapper is the embodiment of the ultimate destructive force(hint beyond universal),anything else?

Yeah, exactly. Death is just standing there. Doing nothing at that point. Thanos was the one to absorb the Rot. All by himself. He was the one to release all that energy, too. I don't care that you don't believe it. It happened.

BTW - GDS takes place in the 30th century. Darkseid was weaker than his standard levels before absorbing Time Trapper and Mordru. Well, why wouldn't TT & Mordru be also? Do they have any feats from GDS that put them, in your words, as 'beyond universal'?

Originally posted by Enyalus
That's not what happened.

Mantis' son (forget the kid's name, Qoui or something), had absorbed some half of Thanos' power. But he needed it to help Death defeat the Rot. So Qoui gave it back...gave Thanos back his own power. He and Death went into the Rot to attempt to defeat it. It basically ate any and all power they threw at it and was killing them both. Thanos is forced to go against his nature in order to help Death defeat it - but it is Thanos who is the one to absorb the entirety of the Rot. Thanos is the one who releases all the energy back into the universe:

And Thanos is the one who beats it.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And death is standing right there but not willing to do a damn thing...right sorry but I don't believe that thanos did that all on his with death just being a cheerleader,not that it matters since again DS and timetrapper are in the same class and timetrapper is the embodiment of the ultimate destructive force(hint beyond universal),anything else?

Death was pushing the Rot towards Thanos, and Thanos was 'pulling'. Thanos was absorbing bits of Rot at a time, but he needed Death to push the entirety of Rot towards him. So... that's what Death did.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah, exactly. Death is just standing there. Doing nothing at that point. Thanos was the one to absorb the Rot. All by himself. He was the one to release all that energy, too. I don't care that you don't believe it. It happened.

BTW - GDS takes place in the 30th century. Darkseid was weaker than his standard levels before absorbing Time Trapper and Mordru. Well, why wouldn't TT & Mordru be also? Do they have any feats from GDS that put them, in your words, as 'beyond universal'?

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Thanos also absorbed Mjolnir's magical enhancement to help combat the Rot.

Well, that'd be quite a feat in an of itself. But that didn't happen. Thor throws his hammer at the Rot and it does nothing. Then when Vision and Wanda and Quoi (I think) are blasting at it, Thor joins in with a blast from Mjolnir, too. And again it does nothing.

But nowhere at no time does Thanos absorb Mjolnir's power. It's explicitly stated that Quoi gives Thanos' power he absorbed from him back, and that's all.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Modru has his ''I make galaxieS destroying fireballs'' feats in the 30th century...and timetrapper is from the end of time his power is entropy...it never weakens or ceases its always there hell the 30th century is generally were the trapper is most active,sorry if im not taking one high end feat that is questionable over the dozens of ones PC or GDS darkseid has over thanos and the fact that GDS has absorbed/beat and been compared to legitimate skyfather+threats on several occasions while thanos generally needs trickery/prep/diversions ect to accomplish such tasks,darkseid was a major player in PC DC I don't know why people seem to have such a hard time understanding that,He wasn't superman punching bag(it was the other way around)he wasn't someone to mess with because he can and will sit you down and shut you up,thanos gets stomped end of story.

Relax. How many times in this very thread have I said that Darkseid wins? More than enough to make my position clear.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Relax. How many times in this very thread have I said that Darkseid wins? More than enough to make my position clear.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Don't know didn't look at your every post sorry but PC darkseid gets so much crap on other sites its downright dumb especially since a lot of it is hur hur superman has beat him up thesedays he must have not been strong hur hur.

Gotcha. Well to reiterate my stance, GDS does definitely win. However, Thanos doesn't get walked over by anyone (except his own clone, Omega). And I just come in and clear up as many misconceptions as I can regarding him (such as not beating a skyfather with his own power). I'd do similar for Darkseid, but you all seem to have that well in hand, and I was never much into the PC era (except for the GDS saga, COIE, and a brief '60-'63 Action Comics flirtation run I had).

So, yeah.

Thanos is def lowish skyfather powerwise,its his durability that lets him shine the most IMO.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Well, that'd be quite a feat in an of itself. But that didn't happen. Thor throws his hammer at the Rot and it does nothing. Then when Vision and Wanda and Quoi (I think) are blasting at it, Thor joins in with a blast from Mjolnir, too. And again it does nothing.

But nowhere at no time does Thanos absorb Mjolnir's power. It's explicitly stated that Quoi gives Thanos' power he absorbed from him back, and that's all.

Like a mouse in a cage... like a mouse in a cage... or like a superposeable action figure to be manipulated