Silver Surfer vs Thor: Melee Battle

Started by darthgoober3 pages

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
If Surfer pours all his energy into amplifying himself, odds are he could knock out Thor. I'd give Thor a nod in the long run, but what if Surfer put ALL his energy into a single punch?

Hard to say. I don't even know if it's possible for Surfer to put all his energy into a single punch, I mean we're talking about a LOT of power. But Surfer's said that he can increase his strength to virtually any degree so it's theoretically possible.

Assuming that it is, I could see that punch outright killing anyone short of Skyfather level, and I could see quite a few Skyfathers getting KO'd or at the very least knocked flat on their asses. Most people think of the Blackhole when measuring Surfer's energy, but they forget that Surfer created that thing with ease, there was no sign of his being tired from the effort. Since we're talking about Surfer using ALL of his power on one concentrated effect then that's the kind of thing we have to look at in his history.

Here Surfer is going to put all his power into healing a dying planet in an effort to kill himself. He brings back life in the oceans, restores the soil, and heals the population... but then he loses control of his power and ends up evolving the planet and everything on billions of years in a matter of moments and the entire planet dies...

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...not to sound like too much of a Surfer fanboy but if a punch containing all that power connected squarely, I could honestly see a headless Thor as the result. And that was Pre-Annihilation...

Originally posted by darthgoober

...not to sound like too much of a Surfer fanboy but if a punch containing all that power connected squarely, I could honestly see a headless Thor as the result. And that was Pre-Annihilation...

thats assuming power to evolve could translate to physical attack power

I'm not convinced that's the case

Originally posted by Starscream M
thats assuming power to evolve could translate to physical attack power

I'm not convinced that's the case

He can amp his physical strength etc

but i think people are getting to excited 😂

Originally posted by Starscream M
thats assuming power to evolve could translate to physical attack power

I'm not convinced that's the case

All of Surfer's power(s) comes from the same energy source...

Originally posted by Starscream M
thats assuming power to evolve could translate to physical attack power

I'm not convinced that's the case


What Bran said(with kg's scan for proof)...

well I know he can amp his strength

my point was that using a feat such as "creating a blackhole" or "evolving a planet" gives us no quantifiable measure as to how much he can amp up

I certainly don't believe that he can amp himself beyond a couple multiples max...saying he can infinitely get stronger is ridiculous imo (he certainly should've amped himself against Tyrant or Thanos if his amping abilities were so great)

Originally posted by Starscream M
well I know he can amp his strength

my point was that using a feat such as "creating a blackhole" or "evolving a planet" gives us no quantifiable measure as to how much he can amp up

I certainly don't believe that he can amp himself beyond a couple multiples max...saying he can infinitely get stronger is ridiculous imo (he certainly should've amped himself against Tyrant or Thanos if his amping abilities were so great)


I didn't say that he could increase his strength infinitely, in fact I questioned whether or not he could even put all his power into pure strength. My assessment was openly theoretical and based on the assumption that the totality of Surfer's energy reserves could be used to that effect. As an example of how far Surfer can take a single ability with the totality of his energy I showed an example of him doing so. His Healing Powers are still back by his power reserves, as made evident by his stating that he's going to "use up the stores of his power" in the 3rd panel of the 1st scan.

Theoretically surfer shouldnt be able to amp himself infinitely unless he contains infinite energy. He shud only be able to amp himself to the level of energy he has wiithin himself( still thats a whole lot of energy). Though im not sure how u wud determine the energy strength ratio.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Theoretically surfer shouldnt be able to amp himself infinitely. He should be able to amp himself unless he contains infinite energy. He shud only be able to amp himself to the level of energy he has wiithin himself( still thats a whole lot of energy)
I would guess that Surfer could amp himself to be 2 to 3 times stronger at most...which is still pretty damn powerful but would still put him below Thanos

Originally posted by Starscream M
I would guess that Surfer could amp himself to be 2 to 3 times stronger at most...which is still pretty damn powerful but would still put him below Thanos

Surfer briefly matched Thanos's power output in Annihilation...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer briefly matched Thanos's power output in Annihilation...
how is that strength?

Originally posted by Starscream M
how is that strength?

Do you really think that Thanos's strength is that much higher than his blast potential?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you really think that Thanos's strength is that much higher than his blast potential?
I think its apples and oranges and therefore cannot be quantifiably compared.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer briefly matched Thanos's power output in Annihilation...

Wha?

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think its apples and oranges and therefore cannot be quantifiably compared.

Sure it can. His punch utilizes kinetic energy, just like his blast utilize cosmic energy. Which do you think delivers more energy overall and by how much?

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think its apples and oranges and therefore cannot be quantifiably compared.
what about bananas

And I do think that Thano's blast output at average is maybe 3-4x more powerful than Surfer's average blast

whereas I think Thanos strength is at 7-8x Surfer's level

so Surfer can much better match Thano's blast output than the titan's strength

Originally posted by Starscream M
And I do think that Thano's blast output at average is maybe 3-4x more powerful than Surfer's average blast

whereas I think Thanos strength is at 7-8x Surfer's level

so Surfer can much better match Thano's blast output than the titan's strength


Which do you think carries more power, a punch from Thanos or a blast from Thanos?

Thanos wouldn't create a machine that makes him exert himself to use. He'd create one that would be able to be used from his most basic level possible.

Still above many beings.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Which do you think carries more power, a punch from Thanos or a blast from Thanos?
a blast