Superman (modern) vs Magneto

Originally posted by Enyalus
Bullshit. He's not passing through a magnetic field (which is what Magneto's forcefields are). They oscillate. It's not regular matter like steel or concrete, which are stationary.

And yeah, Northstar bullrushes just as quickly if not faster than Superman.

Really, cause Supes bullrushed DS to the source wall which is at the edge of the DCU in just 3 panels so...yeah. Supes has vibrated past energy projectiles so somehow its doubtful mags forcefield would cause any problems. Supes vibrates past his forcfield and just...well KO's him.

Could Supes phase through Magento's shield>

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Really, cause Supes bullrushed DS to the source wall which is at the edge of the DCU in just 3 panels so...yeah. Supes has vibrated past energy projectiles so somehow its doubtful mags forcefield would cause any problems. Supes vibrates past his forcfield and just...well KO's him.

Although, I would like to know when Supez has vibrated through solid objects, and not just seemingly moved too fast to be hit by DD's breath...

Originally posted by Red Hulk
He Boomtubed there...

Although, I would like to know when Supez has vibrated through solid objects, and not just seemingly moved too fast to be hit by DD's breath...

He didn't boomtube, he was travelling so fast he caused boomtubed effects. Supes vibrated past energy projectiles...and the art clearly depicts supes vibrating past DD otherwise we would have just seen after images of him dodging. Besides that how does Mag win?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
He didn't boomtube, he was travelling so fast he caused boomtubed effects.

Now quit lying. It was a boomtube that Superman used. Case closed.

Umm..the scan clearly shows he was moving so fast he caused a boomtube lol.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Umm..the scan clearly shows he was moving so fast he caused a boomtube lol.

You keep thinking that.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
He didn't boomtube, he was travelling so fast he caused boomtubed effects. Supes vibrated past energy projectiles...and the art clearly depicts supes vibrating past DD otherwise we would have just seen after images of him dodging. Besides that how does Mag win?

It's a wonder why he's never done either of these again. Especially vibrating through objects...

He's obviously moving around, but even if he did do it, then why would we assume he does it here? Because he vibrated through a blast he can vibrate through an incredibly dense shield? Because he did it once in 23 years, then he'll do it again? CIS is on according to forum rules...

I never said Mags would win. Get your bifocals on.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
I never said Mags would win. Get your bifocals on.

No, but I can see how they might think that. You're instigating arguments in favor of Magneto.

Also, Magneto doesn't have light-speed reflexes. That's ridiculous.

Shielding himself from Cyclops' blast doesn't prove that. Even though he was caught by surprise, Cyclops telegraphed it by yelling at him "Not all, butcher!" No solid case could be made that Magneto shielded himself after the blast was fired. Also, both Wolverine and Sabretooth have dodged Cyclops' blast. That doesn't mean they have light speed reflexes either.

And as for the Northstar feat; the writer seemed to think Quicksilver was faster than him, so he was traveling nowhere near light speed when he attacked Magneto.

Just LOL @ the Magneto side and arguments.

Supes ftw.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Now quit lying. It was a boomtube that Superman used. Case closed.

Batdude loses.

Badabing is gay.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Uh... huh...

It's a wonder why he's never done either of these again. Especially vibrating through objects...

He's obviously moving around, but even if he did do it, then why would we assume he does it here? Because he vibrated through a blast he can vibrate through an incredibly dense shield? Because he did it once in 23 years, then he'll do it again? CIS is on according to forum rules...

I never said Mags would win. Get your bifocals on.

Yet we don't have any issues arguing someone like SS would do things he has only done on rare occasions like there like regular occurances or even bringing up nonsense claims of h2h combat speed. CIS would be supes resorting to T-VO at every turn, this is still within character and thusly this is how he wins.

Superman does not need T-Vo to beat magneto

Originally posted by kgkg
Superman does not need T-Vo to beat magneto

Originally posted by Badabing
Enyalus, it wasn't a boom tube.

...it wasn't a boom tube? It's got the entire boom tube animation, including the signature "BOOM!"

What do you call it?

Originally posted by batdude123
No, but I can see how they might think that. You're instigating arguments in favor of Magneto.

Also, Magneto doesn't have light-speed reflexes. That's ridiculous.

Shielding himself from Cyclops' blast doesn't prove that. Even though he was caught by surprise, Cyclops telegraphed it by yelling at him "Not all, butcher!" No solid case could be made that Magneto shielded himself after the blast was fired. Also, both Wolverine and Sabretooth have dodged Cyclops' blast. That doesn't mean they have light speed reflexes either.

And as for the Northstar feat; the writer seemed to think Quicksilver was faster than him, so he was traveling nowhere near light speed when he attacked Magneto.

How can you be caught by surprise by a telegraphed blow? Either way, if he did or didn't, he had about as much warning as he will for this battle.
They were dodging where Cyke was looking, not the blast itself.

He went to go find someone in upper atmosphere before the person suffocated (in the scene he seemingly moved faster than Quicksilver ever has). It could be attributed to Magneto wanting to talk down to him.

Also, Philo was right, he is a bigger Mags fan than you.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yet we don't have any issues arguing someone like SS would do things he has only done on rare occasions like there like regular occurances or even bringing up nonsense claims of h2h combat speed. CIS would be supes resorting to T-VO at every turn, this is still within character and thusly this is how he wins.

Your second part also contradicts your first part...

He was also able to bend Cyke's blast... which would indicate it happened after it was fired...

Meh.

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Fatnude, are you like the third biggest Magneto fan on the forum now?

Originally posted by Red Hulk
He was also able to bend Cyke's blast... which would indicate it happened after it was fired...

Meh.

I know of this ..

.. and I know of another one where he is depicted deflecting it, though I don't know the exact issue and it may or may not be canon.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Of course I am. That's what I do.

How can you be caught by surprise by a telegraphed blow? Either way, if he did or didn't, he had about as much warning as he will for this battle.
They were dodging where Cyke was looking, not the blast itself.

He went to go find someone in upper atmosphere before the person suffocated (in the scene he seemingly moved faster than Quicksilver ever has). It could be attributed to Magneto wanting to talk down to him.

Also, Philo was right, he is a bigger Mags fan than you.

Cyclops yelled out to Magneto before even firing the blast. No conclusive evidence could ever be brought to the table for Magneto shielding himself after the blast was fired. He doesn't have light speed reflexes. He has reflexes that are 15.5x greater than an average human which allowed him to react before Cyclops.

Which has nothing at all to do with his encounter with Magneto seeing as that took place afterward. Apparently when attacking Magneto, he was doing it at sub-Quicksilver speed, so again not truly relevant in regards to Superman, or light speed reflexes for that matter.

Fanboy doesn't = fan. I'm sure he doesn't really think Magneto wins this.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
He was also able to bend Cyke's blast... which would indicate it happened after it was fired...

Meh.

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Fatnude, are you like the third biggest Magneto fan on the forum now?

Seemed to me to be a shield feat rather than manipulating the blast itself. Which would make a whole helluva lot more sense.

Meh, I just don't like to overrate Erik's abilities.

Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
I know of this ..

.. and I know of another one where he is depicted deflecting it, though I don't know the exact issue and it may or may not be canon.

He wasn't even aiming at him.