Kisame vs Deidara

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yeah, the idea of Kisame reaching him in 5 seconds is crazy.....

Well, Kisame would speed blitz, but it won't work, and he will jump away, and finish making the bird, as he was able to create against Sasuke while Sasuke was attacking.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i actually give it to deidara here, as long as he's prepared for a 30% kisame clone that is. 100% kisame is a very different situation i'm assuming.

100% Kisame wins probably

Originally posted by k1Lla441
How could you agree to all that and still think deidaras gonna win?

Easy, because Kisame can create a lake to give him the advantage, and Kisame has been fighting for longer. Kisame just doesn't have anything to nutrilize clay bombs.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
That still doesnt change the fact that blax hasnt seen there full abilities.
All you did was even out the fight. a little.

So, now we are talking about a fight between 30% Kisame vs Deidara, and I already said 100% Kisame would win, but not 30%.

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
Well, Kisame would speed blitz, but it won't work, and he will jump away, and finish making the bird, as he was able to create against Sasuke while Sasuke was attacking.

100% Kisame wins probably

Easy, because Kisame can create a lake to give him the advantage, and Kisame has been fighting for longer. Kisame just doesn't have anything to nutrilize clay bombs.

So, now we are talking about a fight between 30% Kisame vs Deidara, and I already said 100% Kisame would win, but not 30%.

Actually Ik=just thought of something. Deidara's bombs are infused with his chakra and that is what makes them explode right? Well Kisame's sword eats chakra what Kisame were to hit the bombs with his sword would they be defused. That is the question. Because if that were to happen which i don't see why not Deidara is finished

Originally posted by yungz22
Actually Ik=just thought of something. Deidara's bombs are infused with his chakra and that is what makes them explode right? Well Kisame's sword eats chakra what Kisame were to hit the bombs with his sword would they be defused. That is the question. Because if that were to happen which i don't see why not Deidara is finished

Would Deidara be stupid enough to not blow them up before Kisame tries to defuse? I don't think so. If Kisame tries to defuse it, Deidara would blow up the bomb right in his face.

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
Well, Kisame would speed blitz, but it won't work, and he will jump away, and finish making the bird, as he was able to create against Sasuke while Sasuke was attacking.

100% Kisame wins probably

Easy, because Kisame can create a lake to give him the advantage, and Kisame has been fighting for longer. Kisame just doesn't have anything to nutrilize clay bombs.

So, now we are talking about a fight between 30% Kisame vs Deidara, and I already said 100% Kisame would win, but not 30%.

2. he wins definitely

3. Dont assume he has to automatically nutrilize the bombs. He could stop deidara from even starting the bomb, he could run away from the bomb, or he could stay close to deidara ensuring that the bomb would kill both of them if he used it. Dont limit him to just "neutralizing" the bomb.

4. Still doesnt make any sense. blax said he cant make any judegment of this fight becuase he hasnt seen there full abilities. you giving kisame 30 percent chakra doesnt change the fact that he hasnt seen there full abilites. get it?

Originally posted by k1Lla441
1.What makes you automatically assume that his speed blitz wont work? please clarify.

2. he wins definitely

3. Dont assume he has to automatically nutrilize the bombs. He could stop deidara from even starting the bomb, he could run away from the bomb, or he could stay close to deidara ensuring that the bomb would kill both of them if he used it. Dont limit him to just "neutralizing" the bomb.

4. Still doesnt make any sense. blax said he cant make any judegment of this fight becuase he hasnt seen there full abilities. you giving kisame 30 percent chakra doesnt change the fact that he hasnt seen there full abilites. get it?

Sasuke tried to speed blitz against Deidara, and it didn't work, and Sasuke's speed is far superior to Kisame's.

Everyone knows Kisame wins at 100%.

How is he going to stop him from making the bombs while Deidara is in the air, flying around on his bird, and think that Kisame's 30% water style attacks could hit him when Gaara himself had trouble getting near him? Kisame won't be able to keep near Deidara because of the bird. He gets on that bird and keeps in the air.

I get it. I said I changed it to 30% Kisame. I don't care anymore if we haven't seen 100% Kisame, I just care about 30% Kisame currently.

When did he try to speed blitz him?

Numerous times in the very beginning of the fight. Deidara said Sasuke was too fast, but he was still avoiding him.

Deidera was already on his bird before the fight even staretd. And they ambushed Sawsgay anyway. He didn't know Deidera was there until he attacked him from the sky.

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
Well, Kisame would speed blitz, but it won't work, and he will jump away, and finish making the bird, as he was able to create against Sasuke while Sasuke was attacking.

100% Kisame wins probably

Easy, because Kisame can create a lake to give him the advantage, and Kisame has been fighting for longer. Kisame just doesn't have anything to nutrilize clay bombs.

So, now we are talking about a fight between 30% Kisame vs Deidara, and I already said 100% Kisame would win, but not 30%.

2. Yeah.

3. Water disolves clay.

4. No.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Because Deidara is faster than Kisame, right?

2. Yeah.

3. Water disolves clay.

4. No.

Never said he was, and I never said he wasn't. But if Sasuke can't speed blitz, what makes you think Kisame can?

You actually think that Kisame will be able to dissole the clay before Deidara blows up a C-3 bomb on his ass?

Yes

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
Never said he was, and I never said he wasn't. But if Sasuke can't speed blitz, what makes you think Kisame can?

You actually think that Kisame will be able to dissole the clay before Deidara blows up a C-3 bomb on his ass?

Yes

Because when deidara fought sasuke he was already on his bird. Kisame, in this fight, wont let deidara even get near his bird. Thats why kisame can.

He can definitely. Now it comes down to who can do jutsu faster: can kisame hit deidara with water faster, or can deidara make his bomb faster? seems like a pretty obvious answer.

No. you still dont get it. reread my above post over and over again until you do.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
Because when deidara fought sasuke he was already on his bird. Kisame, in this fight, wont let deidara even get near his bird. Thats why kisame can.

He can definitely. Now it comes down to who can do jutsu faster: can kisame hit deidara with water faster, or can deidara make his bomb faster? seems like a pretty obvious answer.

No. you still dont get it. reread my above post over and over again until you do.

Well, since you don't know, Deidara was standing next to Tobi, and Sasuke speed blitzed him numerous times, and it didn't work, and still got on the bird.

Here is another question, can Kisame hit Deidara with the water if Deidara is on the bird? The answer is also pretty obvious. Gaara's sand was chasing his ass, and yet Deidara was able to create bombs.

*sigh* how about I don't care 🙂 .

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
Never said he was, and I never said he wasn't. But if Sasuke can't speed blitz, what makes you think Kisame can?

You actually think that Kisame will be able to dissole the clay before Deidara blows up a C-3 bomb on his ass?

Yes

Only the specific bomb you are speaking took some time to make...amd going by Kisame's speed, he can dodge it.

It was not a village buster, nowhere near.

And, considering the pressure Kisame can fire certain water jutsus, yeah.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Because Deidara won't be ambushing Kisame in this fight. In other words, he won't already be on his bird.

Only the specific bomb you are speaking took some time to make...amd going by Kisame's speed, he can dodge it.

It was not a village buster, nowhere near.

And, considering the pressure Kisame can fire certain water jutsus, yeah.

You are still dodging the fact that even while Sasuke was speed blitzing Deidara, he was still able to create the bird. Sasuke's speed>>>Kisame's speed.

C-3 is a village destroyer. Gaara's sand just stopped the explosion. Deidara said himself that the village has a great artistic design, but let's blow it to pieces anyway.

Deidara can still go underground and place the clay under ground, he can make a mine field, and more.

That's the point, he didn't speed blitz him. Deidera already had his bird.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/356/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/356/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/356/12/

By the time Sawsgay even knew Deidera was there, Deidera was already on his bird. Before the fight even started.

He wasn't even fighting Deidara in the beginning, as he gets off of the bird to confront Sasuke. So he didn't start on the bird in the beginning.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/07/

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
He wasn't even fighting Deidara in the beginning, as he gets off of the bird to confront Sasuke. So he didn't start on the bird in the beginning.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/07/

It's very likely for Kisame to do all that talking.

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
He wasn't even fighting Deidara in the beginning, as he gets off of the bird to confront Sasuke. So he didn't start on the bird in the beginning.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/07/

And Sawsgay could have killed him then, but he targeted Tobi instead. As pointed out, Sawsgay spared him because he wanted information. 🙄

Originally posted by Wil Deidara
You are still dodging the fact that even while Sasuke was speed blitzing Deidara, he was still able to create the bird. Sasuke's speed>>>Kisame's speed.

C-3 is a village destroyer. Gaara's sand just stopped the explosion. Deidara said himself that the village has a great artistic design, but let's blow it to pieces anyway.

Deidara can still go underground and place the clay under ground, he can make a mine field, and more.

2. No it isn't. It clearly only enveloped what was about the size of maybe two city blocks. What Deidara said is irrelevant, what was shown is what matters.

3. Good thing Kisame can just create a lake for the battlefield, so he will never have to touch the ground.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. No, he never evaded Sasuke to create the bird, and Sasuke even alludes that he would have been killed, but Sasuke wanted information from him. and Sasuke is not much faster than Kisame. That is biased slander.

2. No it isn't. It clearly only enveloped what was about the size of maybe two city blocks. What Deidara said is irrelevant, what was shown is what matters.

3. Good thing Kisame can just create a lake for the battlefield, so he will never have to touch the ground.

Who cares if he spared him. All that matters is that Sasuke speed blitzed and Deidara avoided him, several times. Sasuke>>>Kisame in speed 🙂 .

*sigh*. Then why did Gaara have to protect the entire village? If you say what Deidara said is irrelevant when he has known more about his jutsu's than anyone, then this conversation is irrelevant.

That's one problem down, but he still won't be able to avoid C-3, or C-4.