Originally posted by Wil Deidara1. As my overweight, half-breed ward just stated, that is a contradiction. Why is Sasuke much faster than Kisame?
Who cares if he spared him. All that matters is that Sasuke speed blitzed and Deidara avoided him, several times. Sasuke>>>Kisame in speed 🙂 .*sigh*. Then why did Gaara have to protect the entire village? If you say what Deidara said is irrelevant when he has known more about his jutsu's than anyone, then this conversation is irrelevant.
That's one problem down, but he still won't be able to avoid C-3, or C-4.
2. He didn't. He protected the small section Deidara's bomb would have destroyed. As can be seen, the sand did not envelop the entire village either.
3. Deidara won't have time to make them considering Kisame's speed, and his devastating lonmg range attacks.
When the battle starts, why can't Kisame just puke out a lake? It will happen quicker than Deidara making the bird, and put Deidara underwater, making him easy prey for Kisame.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. As my overweight, half-breed ward just stated, that is a contradiction. Why is Sasuke much faster than Kisame?2. He didn't. He protected the small section Deidara's bomb would have destroyed. As can be seen, the sand did not envelop the entire village either.
3. Deidara won't have time to make them considering Kisame's speed, and his devastating lonmg range attacks.
When the battle starts, why can't Kisame just puke out a lake? It will happen quicker than Deidara making the bird, and put Deidara underwater, making him easy prey for Kisame.
1. Because he is faster. Kisame has shown no big speed feats.
2. The small section, you mean the entire village?
3. Again, Kisame's water style attacks are useless while Deidara is in the air. Deidara would blow Kisame's shark like ass to pieces.
Originally posted by Wil Deidara
1. Because he is faster. Kisame has shown no big speed feats.
Which doesn't matter because Deidera isn't as fast or faster than Sawsgay... And he still didn't make his bird before Sawsgay could attack him. In fact, when Deidera made the big ass C2 bird Sawsgay literally stood there and watched him.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Which doesn't matter because Deidera isn't as fast or faster than Sawsgay... And he still didn't make his bird before Sawsgay could attack him. In [b]fact, when Deidera made the big ass C2 bird Sawsgay literally stood there and watched him. [/B]
I know, but he is able to dodge Sasuke and avoid him. So, if Sasuke tried to attack, he would just use the bird and go higher in the air to avoid him.
But that still doesn't change the fact that Sawsgay had numerous chances to kill him (In the beggining, when Deidera was forming the C2 bird), but chose (Not couldn't, chose), not to kill him. The only time Sawsgay tried to speed blitz him and Deidera dodged was when Deidera was already on his bird, not before.
And notice that Deidera was standing on the right side of Tobi, yet Sawsgay sliced Tobi on his left side. And then remarked that Deidera was the talker so Sawsgay wanted to interrogate him.
What does that prove? Sawsgay wasn't even aiming at him. Just because he jumped away doesn't mean he moved faster.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
And notice that Deidera was standing on the right side of Tobi, yet Sawsgay sliced Tobi on his left side. And then remarked that Deidera was the talker so Sawsgay wanted to interrogate him.What does that prove? Sawsgay wasn't even aiming at him. Just because he jumped away doesn't mean he moved faster.
The side doesn't matter. What matters is that is still avoided Sasuke before he sliced through Tobi. If it was the right side, the result would have remained the same.
It proves that he has avoided extremely quick speed, and Kisame won't be able to speed blitz him.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
And how do we know that Sawsgay, using his great speed and Shunshin as well, wouldn't have simply followed Deidera when he jumped and slashed him when he was in midair, and thus trapped (You can't change direction in midair)? The only reason Sawsgay stoppd the attack is because he got Tobi...
Because by the time Sasuke finished the first slash, Deidara was already on the tree, so Sasuke would try to slash again, and Deidara would just jump out of the way again.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/14/
So Deidara can blow a C1 bomb up to avoid someone.
Nice. Not even revealing why he had to use explosions to dodge.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/13/
Sasuke went behind him without Deidara noticing until he was there, and HAD to detonate the bomb.
He could NOT cope with Sasuke's speed like you are suggesting, and didn't dodge Sasuke the first time, Sasuke was not even aiming for him. And you know, that was only one rushing slash, during a speedblitz, Kisame would be actively pursuing him, not moving in straight lines and stopping if he misses.
Kisame has no speed feats? How about overwhelming Gai.
Look at the scan smart one. The bomb, the explosion, and the sand was nowhere near the size of the whole village.
Are you like, dense, or what? Deidara is not starting this fight on his bird, and it takes alot less time for Kisame to barf out a lake than it does for Deidara to make his bird.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Nice. Not even revealing why he had to use explosions to dodge.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/13/
Sasuke went behind him without Deidara noticing until he was there, and HAD to detonate the bomb.
He could NOT cope with Sasuke's speed like you are suggesting, and didn't dodge Sasuke the first time, Sasuke was not even aiming for him. And you know, that was only one rushing slash, during a speedblitz, Kisame would be actively pursuing him, not moving in straight lines and stopping if he misses.
Kisame has no speed feats? How about overwhelming Gai.
Look at the scan smart one. The bomb, the explosion, and the sand was nowhere near the size of the whole village.
Are you like, dense, or what? Deidara is not starting this fight on his bird, and it takes alot less time for Kisame to barf out a lake than it does for Deidara to make his bird.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Nice. Not even revealing why he had to use explosions to dodge.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/13/
Sasuke went behind him without Deidara noticing until he was there, and HAD to detonate the bomb.
He could NOT cope with Sasuke's speed like you are suggesting, and didn't dodge Sasuke the first time, Sasuke was not even aiming for him. And you know, that was only one rushing slash, during a speedblitz, Kisame would be actively pursuing him, not moving in straight lines and stopping if he misses.
Kisame has no speed feats? How about overwhelming Gai.
Look at the scan smart one. The bomb, the explosion, and the sand was nowhere near the size of the whole village.
Are you like, dense, or what? Deidara is not starting this fight on his bird, and it takes alot less time for Kisame to barf out a lake than it does for Deidara to make his bird.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/09/
As I have said already, It won't matter what side he is on because he jumped out of the way first, and then the slash happened.
Wow, overwelming Gai. Impressive. Just because he overwelmed Gai doesn't make him fast.
You are talking about the beginning of the explosion. You are saying that explosions don't get bigger. Is that what you are saying?
While Kisame barfs out a lake, Deidara creates the bird. It is that simple.
Originally posted by Wil Deidara
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/09/As I have said already, It won't matter what side he is on because he jumped out of the way first, and then the slash happened.
Wow, overwelming Gai. Impressive. Just because he overwelmed Gai doesn't make him fast.
You are talking about the beginning of the explosion. You are saying that explosions don't get bigger. Is that what you are saying?
While Kisame barfs out a lake, Deidara creates the bird. It is that simple.
Overwhelming guy is an impressive speed feat, speed being one of his major fighting points and him working out all the time.
But the point is Kisame is fast enough to speed blitz. Too fast for deidara to make his bird. Fight is over. And if he tries to make these "mines" then while hes doing that kisame will make a lake. He cant make mines and his bird at the same time.
Originally posted by k1Lla441
Overwhelming guy is an impressive speed feat, speed being one of his major fighting points and him working out all the time.But the point is Kisame is fast enough to speed blitz. Too fast for deidara to make his bird. Fight is over. And if he tries to make these "mines" then while hes doing that kisame will make a lake. He cant make mines and his bird at the same time.
He overwhelmed him with jutsu's and pure strength, not speed.
Kisame won't be able to speed blitz, because he is not fast enough. Deidara would just jump away and make a bird, and once that happens, the fight is pretty much over. He would make the bird then mines, all he needs is his mouths on his palms. He would just shoot them out and blow them all up before they hit the ground, and Kisame would have nowhere to run.
Originally posted by Wil Deidara1. I saw the scans already, Sasuke was not making an effort to hit him, hell, he stopped after slashing Tobi, do you even know what a speed-blitz is? It's overwhelming the opponent, not even giving them time to use their own attacks, with your speed. Sasuke did NOT try to blitz him. He barely dodged one slash not even meant for him, and then we see that Deidara had great difficulty dodging Sasuke, hence why he used an explosion to knock him away. If you are still going to defend Deidara resisting a blitz, you are biased, and a fanboy, plain and simple.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/09/As I have said already, It won't matter what side he is on because he jumped out of the way first, and then the slash happened.
Wow, overwelming Gai. Impressive. Just because he overwelmed Gai doesn't make him fast.
You are talking about the beginning of the explosion. You are saying that explosions don't get bigger. Is that what you are saying?
While Kisame barfs out a lake, Deidara creates the bird. It is that simple.
2. Um, yeah, it does. Gai is like, you know, fast. If the person were slow, he could use his speed to close the distance or evade his blows, he could not against Kisame.
3. Then prove the explosion became as big as the village. 🙂 Because the explosion was shown in ONE panel, and the sand was clearly not as large as a village, you are grabbing at straws.
4. How does Deidara create the bird before being flooded by water?