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Originally posted by k1Lla441
This is an ok fight, but kratos takes this easy, due to brutality, insane reflexes, brute strength, endurance, magic, and better weapons.
Ok fight, this is an awesome fight. Kratos can't take this easy, in fact, as I already said, Dante wins. So Kratos deflected lightning, that is impresive, but Dante has Pandora, Vergil's weapon, Ebony and Ivory, those claw type weapons, and more, which with these is alot better than Kratos's weapons. Dante has the different fighting styles, insane reflexes, ability to dodge bullets from arms length, Devil mode, and has defeated god-like monsters, or they could be considered semi god-like monsters.
Originally posted by Wil7
Ok fight, this is an awesome fight. Kratos can't take this easy, in fact, as I already said, Dante wins. So Kratos deflected lightning, that is impresive, but Dante has Pandora, Vergil's weapon, Ebony and Ivory, those claw type weapons, and more, which with these is alot better than Kratos's weapons. Dante has the different fighting styles, insane reflexes, ability to dodge bullets from arms length, Devil mode, and has defeated god-like monsters, or they could be considered semi god-like monsters.
First of all, not one of Dante's weapons are as powerful as the Blade of Olympus or (the GoW series version of) Pandora's box. Both of which have been shown to bestow the power of the Gods/kill a God. That, and unlike the demons and creatures that go by certain names in DMC, the Gods and creatures in God of War are actually meant to be the same beings as their mythological counterparts and not just [b]based[/i] on them, ultimately being in name only. Kratos has defeated at least three Gods, only one of which was PIS, as well as the Sisters of Fate, who are more powerful than even the Gods, Titans, etc, who by shown canon have only been killed by the Gods/God's power (both time Kratos was killed, it was at the hands of the Gods). Dante by feats and implied canon is faster and more durable than Kratos, but Kratos by canon feats is physically stronger, has better magic, more powerful weapons (his best ones at least), and at his peak has the power of the Gods, Titans, and the Sisters of Fate.
Dante could probably take CoO Kratos and Pre-Pandora's Box Kratos, but a GoW2 and/or all-powers Kratos would take any form of Dante, not necessarily with ease, but ultiamtely has more than enough resources to not worry about what the hell a gun is.
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
First of all, not one of Dante's weapons are as powerful as the Blade of Olympus or (the GoW series version of) Pandora's box. Both of which have been shown to bestow the power of the Gods/kill a God. That, and unlike the demons and creatures that go by certain names in DMC, the Gods and creatures in God of War are actually meant to be the same beings as their mythological counterparts and not just [b]based[/i] on them, ultimately being in name only. Kratos has defeated at least three Gods, only one of which was PIS, as well as the Sisters of Fate, who are more powerful than even the Gods, Titans, etc, who by shown canon have only been killed by the Gods/God's power (both time Kratos was killed, it was at the hands of the Gods). Dante by feats and implied canon is faster and more durable than Kratos, but Kratos by canon feats is physically stronger, has better magic, more powerful weapons (his best ones at least), and at his peak has the power of the Gods, Titans, and the Sisters of Fate.Dante could probably take CoO Kratos and Pre-Pandora's Box Kratos, but a GoW2 and/or all-powers Kratos would take any form of Dante, not necessarily with ease, but ultiamtely has more than enough resources to not worry about what the hell a gun is.
Sparda is as powerful as Pandora's Box(PB on GOW is bascially power of a God). Yamato is as powerful as Blade of Olympus(I think). Dante has defeated Gods also. Where is your proof that he is more powerful than a Titan. Dante can also stop time. Has power of Demons. God of War II Kratos couldn't take Sparda's Form. Gilgamesh? Dark Slayer? Ifrit? Yamato? Alastor? Cerberus? Rebellion? Merciless? Vengetta? Trickster & Royal Guard?
Sparda is as powerful as Pandora's Box(PB on GOW is bascially power of a God). Yamato is as powerful as Blade of Olympus(I think). Dante has defeated Gods also. Where is your proof that he is more powerful than a Titan. Dante can also stop time. Has power of Demons. God of War II Kratos couldn't take Sparda's Form. Gilgamesh? Dark Slayer? Ifrit? Yamato? Alastor? Cerberus? Rebellion? Merciless? Vengetta? Trickster & Royal Guard?
Originally posted by Gumachi
Sparda is as powerful as Pandora's Box(PB on GOW is bascially power of a God). Yamato is as powerful as Blade of Olympus(I think). Dante has defeated Gods also. Where is your proof that he is more powerful than a Titan. Dante can also stop time. Has power of Demons. God of War II Kratos couldn't take Sparda's Form. Gilgamesh? Dark Slayer? Ifrit? Yamato? Alastor? Cerberus? Rebellion? Merciless? Vengetta? Trickster & Royal Guard?
Not a way in hell is Yamato as powerful as the BoO. Until it can do something to match unleashing a near world-scaping blast that banished the Titans to the underworld, or destroy an entire city's worth of soldiers with a single slash, or kill a Goddess with one thrust, the closest weapon to the BoO in power is the Sparda Sword which is only said to be so powerful for containing the aforementioned demon's power.
Your list, no disrespect intended, is one that seems to look more into gameplay than rationale. If it proves anything, it's just that Dante is more veratile in-game (and, to a point, out-of-game I admit) than Kratos, making for a deeper combat engine (though Dante is one of few characters who isn't exagerrated in gameplay compared to what he can do canonically, as opposed to countless one-game JRPG characters). What Dante has in "styles", Kratos has in magic, only a fraction of which are unlikely to be effective, because most of them give Kratos an advantage in theoretical AoE versatility. Kratos still has better strength feats than Dante even with Gilgamesh (punching a giant stone monument to rubble IS impressive, don't get me wrong, but I have yet to see him wrangle the Hydra or the Colossus of Rhodes), Kratos has his own power of the Ifrit in the form of a magic spell, the worst Yamato could do has yet to compare with what the BoO at its best can do, as I'd said before.
As for being more powerful than a Titan, by the end of GoWII, he not only commands them as his new army, but given the powers he has over time and destiny, as well as a handful of their magic, with the BoO (which contains his God Powers). Not saying he;s necessarily more powerful, but theoretically speaking, he has the resources to keep them in check. Kratos as a God could with one gesture make Dante's head explode before Dante even goes Devil Trigger, not counting the blatant size advantage. The closest thing to a God that Dante has defeated was Argosax.
Originally posted by Dark_Jaxx
And which Kratos?
Do you mean which character Kratos (Kray-tos or Krah-tos), or which version of Kratos (GoW1/GoW2/CoO/All-Powers)? Because if it's the latter, I have to ask the same thing.
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Not a way in hell is Yamato as powerful as the BoO. Until it can do something to match unleashing a near world-scaping blast that banished the Titans to the underworld, or destroy an entire city's worth of soldiers with a single slash, or kill a Goddess with one thrust, the closest weapon to the BoO in power is the Sparda Sword which is only said to be so powerful for containing the aforementioned demon's power. Dante was powerful enough to kill Argosax in 1 blow(his power and not someone's else with The Blade). And no I don't have anything agains't Kratos.Your list, no disrespect intended, is one that seems to look more into gameplay than rationale. If it proves anything, it's just that Dante is more veratile in-game (and, to a point, out-of-game I admit) than Kratos, making for a deeper combat engine (though Dante is one of few characters who isn't exagerrated in gameplay compared to what he can do canonically, as opposed to countless one-game JRPG characters). What Dante has in "styles", Kratos has in magic, only a fraction of which are unlikely to be effective, because most of them give Kratos an advantage in theoretical AoE versatility. Kratos still has better strength feats than Dante even with Gilgamesh (punching a giant stone monument to rubble IS impressive, don't get me wrong, but I have yet to see him wrangle the Hydra or the Colossus of Rhodes), Kratos has his own power of the Ifrit in the form of a magic spell, the worst Yamato could do has yet to compare with what the BoO at its best can do, as I'd said before.
As for being more powerful than a Titan, by the end of GoWII, he not only commands them as his new army, but given the powers he has over time and destiny, as well as a handful of their magic, with the BoO (which contains his God Powers). Not saying he;s necessarily more powerful, but theoretically speaking, he has the resources to keep them in check. Kratos as a God could with one gesture make Dante's head explode before Dante even goes Devil Trigger, not counting the blatant size advantage. The closest thing to a God that Dante has defeated was Argosax.
[QUOTE=Dark_Jaxx][b]And which Kratos?
Do you mean which character Kratos (Kray-tos or Krah-tos), or which version of Kratos (GoW1/GoW2/CoO/All-Powers)? [/B][/QUOTE]
Yamato sealed the demon world. Devil Trigger>Rage of The Titans. Hydra or Collosus? Dante defeated The Savior and Echidna and there are worser than those 2. Just because he commands them doesn't mean he is more powerful than them. Yeah he can but Dante has defeated Mundus(A God), Satan, Michael Archangel, Odin and more. Dante could easily kill Zeus. Im tired of the Kratos "killed a God thing". Kratos power still can be robbed from him. His regeneration is too high. He's a mortal and he still can die llike a human. So what if he killed Gods(In Mortal Bodies). Mundus was waaaay worser. Zeus got his ass kicked by Kratos(A mortal--yes it was shocking). But only the power of Sparda can defeat Mundus. Dante can go Sparda DT. And High Gods like Sparda are immortal. And what makes u think Cronos Rage will hurt him? He is too fast for Kratos. He is still a Mortal and can die like onw. Yes The Blade could kill him BUT. Royal Guard can block all of the attacks. And Asorb it's power using it against him. Dante has "God" powers also(Ifrit and Alastor Gods in DMC are like Demons). And what makes u think he could make his head explode? He only did that to Full Humans. Why did he just make Kratos head explode then? Just because it killed Athena in 1 blow doesn't mean it will do the same to Dante. He could asorb all of The Blade's magic with the Royal Guard. Even if he has power of fate. He can't travel to Dante's time. Dante hasn't died. Kratos has twice. Kratos can still get impaled and die. The only Devil Arm that has actually hurt Dante was Yamato. Kratos is slow compared to Dante. Besides, Kratos can't teleport. ROTT doesn't allow regeneration. DT does. Dante also has lighting, fire & wind. He could asord. Crono's Rage, Typhon's bow.
Not to mention Kratos has defeated Gods using The "GODS" power he hasn't used his own. The Blade can't seal an entire world nor cut thru dementions. It's not that he defeated The Fates to get his Time Powers but stepping thru a mirror. The Gods in GOW can easily die by getting impaled. Dante is a half human got impaled 4 times and lived. If your saying this is GOWII Kratos and he has Titans. Why does he need the Titans backing him up on a one-on-one fight? Dante has slayed Atlas The Titan. You also forgot Dante can use Jackpot Seal--Sealing Kratos under Hell under his own power.