I copied and pastied.
And 1st of all it's a magical blade.
You have magic in God of War.
Pandora's box does have power to become a God. If it isn't a magical blade what is it?
And aparently he wouldn't just "step" on him. Hell the Gods were small as humans and brought down the Titans.
PB just made Kratos grow(and increased powers I think). And it gives you power to kill a God. Nonething more nonething less.
And Dante has faced people WAAAAY more powerful than Kratos. And people who can destroy the world.
And Krato's can't fly. Dante can. He could shock his ass to death with Alastor. Or Blast him with some fireball.
I doubt Dante can die.
Got Stabbed by Alastor(God Sword), Force Edge(It hurt Vergil but didn't hurt him--and he was getting shocked by Trish Dante was), Yamato, Rebellion, 6 Sickles at 1 time(in the heart)
Got stabbed in the heart in the anime
Got crucified(lived)
Got punched by Beowulf
Got shot in the head twice
In the stomach once.
And if this is DMC2 Dante then>GOWII Kratos.
Originally posted by Gumachi
I copied and pastied.And 1st of all it's a magical blade.
You have magic in God of War.
Pandora's box does have power to become a God. If it isn't a magical blade what is it?
And aparently he wouldn't just "step" on him. Hell the Gods were small as humans and brought down the Titans.
PB just made Kratos grow(and increased powers I think). And it gives you power to kill a God. Nonething more nonething less.
The Gods were their full size....
Made kratos a powerhouse is what PB did, beyond Dante for sure.
Originally posted by Gumachi
1.He can't take more than Dante. He can't get impaled and live. And you claim he's the son of Zues he shouldn't get hurt. And please if your going to make up bullshit have proof mkay? He's a Half Demon. So it wouldn't have killed him. Unlike Kratos who nearly died. And Dante can regenerate so regardless it wouldn't have hurt.
Ok, lets get this straight, kratos got stabbed by 1. a gigantic wooden spear thrown by a god, and 2. the BoO. Your acting as if he got stabbed by a toothpick and died. Kratos is not a pushover, in anyway. By the way, what bullshit did i make up? Just because dante is a half demon doesnt mean the collosus hand wouldnt have killed him. Dante can regenerate, but if he gets splattered all over the place thats a whole different story.
Originally posted by Gumachi
2.I mean Lucifer the Fallen Angel did you even look at the video? Ares died getting impaled. Athena. Dante is stronger than Vergil(now)so if Vergil can Dante can. Zeus throws a few bolts who-raaaay. Vergil got cut in half lived and took on Mundus. Athena got impaled once and died. Zeus can take what 2 shots from The Blade and he's already hurt.
Originally posted by Gumachi
3.He doesn't fight without his blades. And since when was Martial Arts out in Greek Times?
Originally posted by Gumachi
4.I said SLOW DOWN TIME IDIOT. He has to slow down time infront of a Statue. Aparently you haven't played God of War II. Why can't I slow down time when I fight Zeus? And he still has to have the mirror.
http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Amulet_of_the_Fates And NO I didn't edit anything. Infact replay the game. He only went back in time. He never slowed down time unless a Statue is infront of him.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Kratos finds the Amulet of the Fates in the Temple of Lahkesis. When used, it causes everything around him to greatly slow down, while he continues moving at normal speed. The amulet is needed in order to solve certain puzzles throughout the game and it can also be used for an edge while fighting enemies. The amulet however can only be activated when it is close enough to a Fates Statue.
At the time he aquired the amulet of the fates, he didnt have complete control of the time controlling powers. At the end of the game is when he aquired it. Did you see him use the amulet when he took the titans to his time?No, because he didnt have to.
Originally posted by Gumachi
5.Your a fanboy. Saying anything to protect Kratos. He has power of God because Sparda=God. You act as if they don't have "Zeus Bolts, Hades' Souls, Chrono's Rage, etc. He can't have power of Gods. Dante KILLED the Kings of Gods(Odin). Odin was The Norse Gods of Gods(Who was also God of War and other "Gods Of"😉 If he can defeat Odin(which only the almighty can)he can defeat Zeus & Ares(w/o Pandora's Box). Ares wouldn't step on him to fast. The bigger you are the slower you are. Just because Kratos needs God's powers to defeat the Gods doesn't mean Dante will. Gods get their asskicked by Mortal? And well he is a God. Sparda=God. He has power of Sparda(and more powerful than Sparda)so he is a God. Just because he doesn't become a "God" when he kills Zeus doesn't mean it will be the same in DMC. And where's your proof he doesn't come close to being a God? He actually has more power than Sparda making him a God. And killed Argosax so the more Demon Kings he kill the more powerful he gets. Why do you think he can turn into Sparda? Just because it doesn't happen in GOW doesn't mean it will in DMC. DMC is not in GOW universe. And why didn't Ares just "step" on Kratos then? And why did he let Kratos open Pandora's Box. Instead of putting him on fire?
Originally posted by GumachiYea, it takes the blades attack, and counters with kratos slamming his blades on the floor, repeat. Its not that hard of a concept, if the golden fleece can come off as easy as you make it sound, how come none of the sword attacks kratos blocked during the game didnt cut through it?
That's the most bullshit I ever heard. It can asorb The Blade's attacks. Trying to accuse me of not playing. And he can't block all attacks. All he does is block and slam his blades on the ground. Yamato can still cut thru The Fleece regardless. Royal Guard>Golden Fleece. The Fleece can be removed from Krato's arm.
Originally posted by Gumachi
And Dante is strong enough to block attacks from The Savior.Aparently your the fanboy.
And like I said Kratos=Mortal. So Mortal Things can kill him.
How are you going to call me the fanboy? Both my avatar and my sig are of dante. Dmc is one of the coolest games ive ever played, and dante is one of the coolest guys made. Trust me, i would never, EVER want to see dante killed, but im just saying whats true. And please dont repeat the same thing back to me, about how much you love gow, because you dont.
Let me get this right: you say kratos is mortal. You say kratos can die by mortal things. But yet pretty much EVERYTHING he does is not mortal. He can defeat hundred feet tall hydras, gigantic minotaurs, stop atlas' hand from crushing him, kill cyclops', defeat the sisters of fate, and yet he is still a mortal? He maybe a mortal, but hes like the toughest mortal in the universe, and he is definitely the wierdest mortal. An average mortal will die froma bullet. An average mortal cant lift 50 tons. So what your trying to say is that kratos has the strenght of a super human, yet he dies as fast as a regular person?? thats joke.
Originally posted by Gumachi
And Dante has faught people far worse than Zeus and Ares. Your just a fanboy. I bet if it was me saying Kratos would win. And you saying Dante would win. You would be saying the same thing I am.
Originally posted by k1Lla441
Ok, lets get this straight, kratos got stabbed by 1. a gigantic wooden spear thrown by a god, and 2. the BoO. Your acting as if he got stabbed by a toothpick and died. Kratos is not a pushover, in anyway. By the way, what bullshit did i make up? Just because dante is a half demon doesnt mean the collosus hand wouldnt have killed him. Dante can regenerate, but if he gets splattered all over the place thats a whole different story.Half the stuff in this paragraph was either about zeus or vergil. Stick to the topic. And just because vergil can get cut in half doesnt mean that dante can be cut in half and fight. Athena got impaled by the BoO, not just any normal sword. Im pretty sure if she got stabbed by one of dmc's weak weapons she would have surely lived. Remember, the BoO sealed all the titans and ended the great titan war with 1 blow.
May not have been martial arts, but you shouldnt question his hand to hand combat when you havent even seen him fight. You said it your self, he always uses his blades, so you cant judge his hand to hand combat.
Im pretty sure if mother gaia herself, said that kratos can control time, that he can slowdown time. Controlling time means to have control of it, as in you can slow it down, speed it up, stop it, go forwards or backwards through it. Just because he didnt want to slow down time doesnt mean he cant. All kratos wanted to do was bring the titans to his time, WHICH HE DID with his time controlling powers.
At the time he aquired the amulet of the fates, he didnt have complete control of the time controlling powers. At the end of the game is when he aquired it. Did you see him use the amulet when he took the titans to his time?No, because he didnt have to.
Did you just tell me that dante, The almighty demon "god", can beat Zeus and Ares? are you JOKING?? There is no way possible for dante to beat kratos, let alone 2 gods that are thousands of times bigger than him. Pandoras box didnt turn him into a god, it just made him bigger. it didnt give him any extra abilities or anything, it just made him big. The one time ares did have a chance to stop kratos, he did by impaling him with a giant spear. The second time kratos got to it to fast be taking it from him.
Yea, it takes the blades attack, and counters with kratos slamming his blades on the floor, repeat. Its not that hard of a concept, if the golden fleece can come off as easy as you make it sound, how come none of the sword attacks kratos blocked during the game didnt cut through it?
How are you going to call me the fanboy? Both my avatar and my sig are of dante. Dmc is one of the coolest games ive ever played, and dante is one of the coolest guys made. Trust me, i would never, EVER want to see dante killed, but im just saying whats true. And please dont repeat the same thing back to me, about how much you love gow, because you dont.
Let me get this right: you say kratos is mortal. You say kratos can die by mortal things. But yet pretty much EVERYTHING he does is not mortal. He can defeat hundred feet tall hydras, gigantic minotaurs, stop atlas' hand from crushing him, kill cyclops', defeat the sisters of fate, and yet he is still a mortal? He maybe a mortal, but hes like the toughest mortal in the universe, and he is definitely the wierdest mortal. An average mortal will die froma bullet. An average mortal cant lift 50 tons. So what your trying to say is that kratos has the strenght of a super human, yet he dies as fast as a regular person?? thats joke.
Like i said, im not the fanboy. How can i be one if i set my avatar to dante and my sig dante before i even knew this arguement was going to happen?? And no, i would never say what your saying now, as its just biased and irrelevant.
1.He got punched by Beowulf at full power and got up. Collosus drained his powers. "Mortal Things Can Hurt Kratos" Dante isn't a Mortal. Dante getting hit by Beowulf in DMC3. I'd say the force is pretty similar, Colossus being bigger, but not really trying to actually hit Kratos (being defeated at the time), whereas Beowulf was going full power (and actually, given the stone angel effect, Beowulf's strike probably had greater force). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrs_Giu6iAQ&feature=channel_page Dante's taken incinerating blasts of Holy energy, gunfire, hellfire, slashes, cuts, smashes, trampling and Devil magics (just to name a few injuries) and the only times he's even been hurt is when A) Mundus impales his chest several times with Nether Spikes in DMC1, B) when he's impaled through the heart by Rebellion in the DMC anime, and C) when Vergil stabs him through the heart with Rebellion in DMC3.
2.Actually Dante's swords are "divine". So they don't need a special look or anything.
3.I said we never saw him without his blades. I never said he couldn't beat him in hand-to-hand combat. I'm just saying we haven't saw him without using blades.
4.Put it like this let's wait until God of War III comes then? So if we can see if he can slow down time w/o the use of the Fate's Statue. BTW the Trailer kicked ASS. Anyway he still has to be infront of a Statue. And Krato's can slow time. But how can he beat Dante who can use The Bangle(Stops the whole world).
5.He went back in time. He didn't slow down time.
6.If he defeated Odin(Who was Also God of War/Gods of Gods) he can defeat Zeus/Ares. Besides he can seal them both in hell under their own power. Besides Dante KILLED Immortal Gods. I'm not saying Krato's couldn't(who knows he might kill The Titans). But what my point is that he(Dante)killed more powerful Gods than Greek Gods. Let's not start a Mundus vs Zeus(or try not to). Size doesn't matter. He defeated Savior and he was bigger than a God. Hell The Gods brought down the Titans. And they were human compared the the Titans. Besides Sparda Cannon can kill Gods in 1 attack. So they can't stop Sparda Cannon them both. Jackpot Seal owns the both. They can't stop them that(Trapped in Hell--not Hades under their own power).
7.Most of the swords were normal. And The Blade we don't know if it can cut thru anything.
8.He still is a Mortal stated by Gaia. Lifting up Hydras has nonething to do with the fact Mortal Things can hurt him. And I never said "1 bullet will kill Kratos" if that's what you think. I mean it's kinda take a heap load of bullets to bring him down.
Didn't I tell u expect me to be an a-hole? And that I can get debatebul? Just because I think Dante could kill Kratos does NOT make me a FANBOY.
And how can Krato's stop Dante's teleportation? And Fire can't hurt Dante BTW. And Yamato can cut thru Krato's arm =] Dante can summon 1000 Bats around Krato's(which is Nevan a magic barrier plus blood-sucking, limb-rending demonic ever-spawning bat). Hell The Mighty Titan Oranos(Uranus)was killed with a damn sickle.
The only way for him to kill Dante is to rip out his heart with a Devil Arm
Originally posted by Gumachi
Zeus isn't the most powerful even in his own universe. He's a large mortal who throws lightning bolts that are given to him by Hephaestus.
Now I know for a fact you quoted that from youtube (unless...). But the fact is that the only reson Zeus wouldn't be the most powerful in his own universe is because that satus goes to Kratos. That said, what you're saying is still a gross generalization of the myth, not the canon of the game, and IN the game, Zeus has his own feats that put him beyond the likes of a "large mortal". Aside from annihilating an entire army with a swing of his sword, banishing the Titans to the underwolrd with one world-scaping blast, and even Ares has feats that give no reason to assume Kratos as the God of War(who was >>> Ares), can't do the same, which involves being able to tear a man in half with a single gesture.
Kratos' powers over time are not limited to the amulet as of GoWII's end. We have yet to see how he'll put his powers to use, but as shown through the end of God of War II, he neither needs the loom chamber to travel through time, nor does it appear that the loom chamber would even be usable (having begun to collapse). If Zeus were comparable to only "a large mortal" he wouldn't've been shown to tank blows from a weapon that could kill a lesser God (and more likely than not, anything below) with one thrust.
Dante is an emo gaybot...,Krato's rocks his world
He wouldn't just "rip" anyone head off. Why didn't he do it to Perseus/Thesus then?
And what makes you think his limbs can be ripped? Kratos is slow to Dante and Dante would have to literally sit up there. And how do we know that his limbs can be ripped?(He isn't a mortal).
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Originally posted by Gumachi
Zeus isn't the most powerful even in his own universe. He's a large mortal who throws lightning bolts that are given to him by Hephaestus.
Now I know for a fact you quoted that from youtube (unless...). But the fact is that the only reson Zeus wouldn't be the most powerful in his own universe is because that satus goes to Kratos. That said, what you're saying is still a gross generalization of the myth, not the canon of the game, and IN the game, Zeus has his own feats that put him beyond the likes of a "large mortal". Aside from annihilating an entire army with a swing of his sword, banishing the Titans to the underwolrd with one world-scaping blast, and even Ares has feats that give no reason to assume Kratos as the God of War(who was >>> Ares), can't do the same, which involves being able to tear a man in half with a single gesture.
Kratos' powers over time are not limited to the amulet as of GoWII's end. We have yet to see how he'll put his powers to use, but as shown through the end of God of War II, he neither needs the loom chamber to travel through time, nor does it appear that the loom chamber would even be usable (having begun to collapse). If Zeus were comparable to only "a large mortal" he wouldn't've been shown to tank blows from a weapon that could kill a lesser God (and more likely than not, anything below one thrust)
Banning the Titans has nonething to do with that(and he had help vs the Titan)Besides The Blade did it not Zeus. Anyone can rip someone in half if the carcase is rotting.
Dante>Kratos. Kratos isn't any different than what Dante has faught(if he faced Gods what makes Kratos--a Mortal any different?). And why didn't Ares just step on Kratos? He wouldn't step on anything(too slow). And hell he can easily seal Kratos in Hell under HIS own power.
Kratos can't stop Jackpot Seal or Sparda Cannon. Desperation DT releases Fireballs or summons a fire dragon.
He didnt because he killed them in other humiliating ways, maybe hell just slam Dantes head multiple times through a stone door or better yet impale Dante on a chain and leave him swinging.
Dante is easy to destroy for Kratos, Dantes endurance is nothing and so is his magic resistence. The only thing Dante has against Kratos is speed...thats it, but what good is a fast fly compared to a tank? nothing.....