Zoom and Wally vs Surfer and Thor

What's he going to do then?

Originally posted by Priest
Surfer does need to tag neither of them to win.

TP? TK?

Assuming Surfer starts out on/near the ground, he wouldn't get the chance to use that type of 'attack' before Flash/Zoom were punching the shit out of him.

Surfer doesn't like speedsters [Runner was a prime example].

Originally posted by Galan007
Assuming Surfer starts out on/near the ground, he wouldn't get the chance to use that type of 'attack' before Flash/Zoom were punching the shit out of him.

Surfer doesn't like speedsters [Runner was a prime example].

Runner was simply more powerful than surfer. He actually defeated surfer by straight up overpowering him.

At the end of the battle, yes.

But at the very beginning, Runner was all over him speed-wise [ie. easily dodging his blasts, snagging his board, etc.]

Lets not forget that surfer wasnt really fighting at his best with runners empathy power causing surfer to like him and all.

Team 1, in a stomp.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Lets not forget that surfer wasnt really fighting at his best with runners empathy power causing surfer to like him and all.

Surfer wasn't even trying to fight the Runner. remember, the Runner suckered him initially. after that, the Surfer commented on the Runner's strange effect on him, making him like the Runner even though he was fighting him.

Surfer >> Flash/Zoom. Surfer has control over time to enough of a degree to make a Zoom irrelevant. and Flash was/is/will be totally a non-entity to Surfer.

Surfer solos.

Surfer will be slapped to shit the moment he starts ranting about his cosmic power Zoom would make sure of that if I wanted to act like a fanboy I would say something like Zoom solos team 2 ...but team 1 wins

I remember it being stated that Silver Surfer was weakened due to the battles with Champion and Korvac prior to his fight with Runner (by Champion himself, though I do find this to be relativly illogical). Even so, it doesn't change the fact that Runner owned Surfer pretty badly while smiling and making jokes throughout the fight, stealing his board, dancing around his attacks and such, with nothing making me think that even if he was at his best (in case he wasn't here) things would go different.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hmm, I don't remember him being affected much at the beginning of the fight.. Haven't read that comic in years though.

It did have an effect on surfer. He even says something like " I shud be weary of this being but for some reason he sweeps all caution from me"

1) Surfer's reactions are too fast for either of them to bullrush him
2) Surfer's now less inclined to "speechify", witness the ass-kicking he gave Nova (without even breaking a sweat).
3) Surfer's durability is far too great for either of Team 1 to trouble him with the odd punch or kick that they do land, but neither of them is durable enough to survive Surfer's bog-standard omni-directional blast.

Wally West and Zoom won't be able to hurt the Surfer with their kicks and punches? Somebody knows nothing about Zoom or Flash // this thread.

Lulz at you/anybody actually taking Janus seriously.

Originally posted by janus77
616 Surfer would rip through GLs, Flashes and Supermans without much trouble if he wanted to

Originally posted by janus77
but wait...
superman's like ... really fast too and and shoots eye beams!

truly, Surfer's too fast and powerful for half the JLA to remain living after the first 1/100000th of a nano-second.

GLs are going to achieve sod-all against Surfer, he absorbed the blummin' Oan central battery and was but a little dazed by that vast amount of energy. and he's been upgraded since then, as well as given to greater use of his powers.

what's Flash going to do really? out-run surfer? first time Surfer tags him, and he will, end of fight for Flash.

CA is how Surfer knows all he needs know about ALL the JLA, what their energies are, their cellular structure, their weaknesses etc etc ...

if Surfer wanted to get creative, he could simply take Thor into the microverse and there give Thor the Power Cosmic too, as well as resynthesis the Odin Force and add it to his own powers, return to the normal universe (without a second having passed) and obliterate the JLA with 1000000x C hammer strikes.

Surfer isnt going to be giving flash and zoom long speeches thats for sure. Immediately the fights starts surfer is fast enough to take to the air before they can hit him ( his movement as well as thinking speed is on par with theirs).

Originally posted by Philosophía
Lulz at you/anybody actually taking Janus seriously.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
It did have an effect on surfer. He even says something like " I shud be weary of this being but for some reason he sweeps all caution from me"

-Surfer-
"But whatever powers he has over my emotions..... He has none over my power cosmic!"

Runner then dodges the PC blasts and snags Surfer's board..

Originally posted by Galan007
It seems like he was slightly affected, but not hindered much overall..

-Surfer-
"But whatever powers he has over my emotions..... He has none over my power cosmic!"

Runner then dodges the PC blasts and snags Surfer's board..

Yeah well it didnt have control over surfers powers, but it did affect his mindset for the fight hence the reason i said he wasnt eactly fighting at full potential.