Originally posted by Galan007It's not just real world logic/physics which fall by the wayside, but it seems even internal consistency is lacking.
Meh, the Speed Force is simply the 'go to' answer for speed feats which may seem impossible when real world logic is applied.
Case in point: Flash's infinity mass punch relies on a natural increase in mass when objects reach relativistic speeds. Yet, isn't the speedforce supposed to shield Flash from such effects? Even if you want to say, "Well, he can selectively shield some parts of his body and not others," that still means he has to deal with infinite mass in some fashion, which means infinite gravity, which means Flash should be zipping about with a black hole at the end of his arm.
Ignoring real world physics is one thing. Not following one's own story rules, ie, not respecting internal consistency--one of the hallmarks of great scifi/fantasy writing--is a whole other ballgame.
But then, what else to expect when power cosmic lets you do anything but fly unassisted, and pants are the only clothing which survives gamma-powered size increases.
There are people who have trouble understanding the Speed Force.
Here is another good blogger who explains it best. (Possibly even better than DC editorial)
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
There are people who have trouble understanding the Speed Force.Here is another good blogger who explains it best. (Possibly even better than DC editorial)
Still doesn't say what is possible and what isn't. Unless of course, anything is possible with the speed force.
Which again raises the old joke about why a Flash comic should be longer than one page, with his speed to slove problems.
Originally posted by roughrider
Still doesn't say what is possible and what isn't. Unless of course, anything is possible with the speed force.
Which again raises the old joke about why a Flash comic should be longer than one page, with his speed to slove problems.
It could be that they weren't aware of the Speed Force and just felt the effects. Or it could be that didn't know their true potential.
Originally posted by roughrider
Still doesn't say what is possible and what isn't. Unless of course, anything is possible with the speed force.
Which again raises the old joke about why a Flash comic should be longer than one page, with his speed to slove problems.
Getting quite philosophical here but maybe words like possible and Impossible cannot be applied to the speed force. Words like limitations only apply to a commonsensical reality, in the speed force realm maybe limits means unlimited, up = down, addition = subtraction, effect leads to cause etc.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think JohnByrne has an quote about "being the goddamned author" that might make you think twice.
To which I reply, "Take basic ****ing math." 😛 Besides, Loeb, Mcduffie and Liefeld are 'god damn authors.' If the author is obviously wrong and ignoring basic aspects of the character's powers, or worse, defying comic logic, then we, the readers, deserve the right to call shenanigans and label this "Sub-C" designation as the utter drek it is.
Wakateru ka? (Ok?)
Dakara, kimi no shine basho wa koko de, narimasho. (Thus, this will become the place of your demise.) ioriyagami
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To which I reply, "Take basic ****ing math." 😛 Besides, Loeb, Mcduffie and Liefeld are 'god damn authors.' If the author is obviously wrong and ignoring basic aspects of the character's powers, or worse, defying comic logic, then we, the readers, deserve the right to call shenanigans and label this "Sub-C" designation as the utter drek it is.Wakateru ka? (Ok?)
Dakara, kimi no shine basho wa koko de, narimasho. (Thus, this will become the place of your demise.) ioriyagami
I don't really understand what everyone qualms are with the incident described. Super heroes regularly defy the laws of physics. Well our physics. Whose to say the speed of light in the D.C. isn't heck of lot more faster in thqn ours ? It would explain lot; i.e. why Superman can make it to the Sun and back in a matter of seconds, why he gets so much power from Sunlight, why you only need a few hundred nukes and not trillions to knock the earth out of orbit. Why simple electrical systems can give beings enough power to fly, why enhanced metabolisms can give beings nuclear level power etc.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
I don't really understand what everyone qualms are with the incident described. Super heroes regularly defy the laws of physics. Well our physics. Whose to say the speed of light in the D.C. isn't heck of lot more faster in thqn ours ? It would explain lot; i.e. why Superman can make it to the Sun and back in a matter of seconds, why he gets so much power from Sunlight, why you only need a few hundred nukes and not trillions to knock the earth out of orbit. Why simple electrical systems can give beings enough power to fly, why enhanced metabolisms can give beings nuclear level power etc.
I believe the phrase is "Comic book physics." dur
But some things like speed of light have to be consistent, otherwise it's just silly.
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
I don't really understand what everyone qualms are with the incident described. Super heroes regularly defy the laws of physics. Well our physics. Whose to say the speed of light in the D.C. isn't heck of lot more faster in thqn ours ? It would explain lot; i.e. why Superman can make it to the Sun and back in a matter of seconds, why he gets so much power from Sunlight, why you only need a few hundred nukes and not trillions to knock the earth out of orbit. Why simple electrical systems can give beings enough power to fly, why enhanced metabolisms can give beings nuclear level power etc.
It wouldn't explain any of those things.