Originally posted by Kris Blaze
She lived, and he felt it.It's possible to feel an attack without falling over.
Congrats. He "felt it." A point blank attack from behind that he wasn't expecting. As opposed to having his head rocked back and being knocked to the ground by Thanos' attack, someone he was fully prepared for and fighting.
What exactly was your point in bringing Ganymede into this?
Originally posted by Enyalus
Stoic, what do you not get about the fact that DD Rex was an incredibly poor version of DD? He wasn't even complete, as Luthor says to Darkseid.DD's claws have torn a motherbox amped Superman up. This one gets his claws broken? Come on.
Not to mention he was slow as hell...which is why Superman was able to speedblitz him.
Which still doesn't distract from DD rex still being a imposing opponent, and to my knowledge I really havn't seen Thanos show any combat speed that would suggest he woul fair any better again someone who can move like clark. Thanos has had issues keeping pace with elite MA with incredible mobolity before anyways, and supes has some fairly insane showings in regards to this.
IMO, combat speed has 3 apsects to it which include mobolity,initiation and reflex. Basically mobolity meaning how the character and move about on the battle field, intiation meaning how fast they can intiate strikes and reflex of course representing how they react in these speeds. So look at these examples:
Mobolity: http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanspeedfight.jpg
Initiation:
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=351yc.jpg
Reflex:
http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvswwry2.jpg
This isn't even including his MA talent or exotic abilities, so with all that shown I simply fail to see how Thanos will even be able to react let alone mount a offense on supes considering supes overwhealming speed advantage.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Ah! Prepare to be impressed then!Thanos was stalemating Afro Magus w/ Soul Gem being amped by a thousand worlds after he had helped beat 25,000 Black Knights. His power reserves were presumably low. And this happens before his first resurrection, before any upgrade by Lady Death.
Impressive. I must admit...however, he didn't do it in seconds and while fighting them all at once like Supes did. 😉
Evidence suggests that the Spinsterhood was able to stun Tyrant due to the batons that they wielded. This may be why Ganymede was able to appear to harm Tyrant when other characters that were vastly superior to her were unable, an example being Beta Ray Bills hammer hitting him to no effect.
The baton seemed like Tyrants proverbial wolves bane. Just to clear that up.
Originally posted by Nihilist
imo that can down to matter of opinion
Everything in these threads is subject to opinion. However, face the truth. That was a vastly confused and far weaker beyonder. Even with that...she could have easily destroyed Thanos as she easily took him out in their first encounter.
It's not much different than the whole Dominus thing except that fight was way better.
Originally posted by Nihilist
i believe these are the shots that are being mentioned,also the major damage to thanos came from tyrants base exploding not tyrant attacks
He said that Thanos 1 shotted Tyrant on 2 occasions...
I have this comic.
Originally posted by Nihilist
his blows did rock tyrant though
His amped blows rocked Tyrant. Impressive, but he was holding onto dear life for a power up. He then bfr'd himself. Forum wise...that is a loss for Thanos.
This is still pretty sad compared to OWAW Supes amp.
Originally posted by Nihilist
imo that because infinty man had other matters to attend too,do you think supes had a chance against IM.
Just like in your example, Supes ROCKED Infinity man. I never said he was going to beat him, physically though Supes was a hell of a heavy hitter...and even after IM stalled Supes it was hinted in the same comic that Supes might have been able to beat him.
Originally posted by Nihilist
he was stalemating him,but it kind hard to take someone down got infinite power backing their every attribute.also thor was no pussy he went through the infinity watch/surfer/strange as well
Practically everyone has infinite power backing them, Quasar, Strange, Surfer, Supes, Thor...etc. It doesn't mean that they can access it all at once or that they do/did.
Infinity man killed all the new gods...mr miracle needed to ALE to battle him. They weren't biaches either.
Originally posted by Nihilist
see Enylus's post
Already did and already responded.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Which still doesn't distract from DD rex still being a imposing opponent, and to my knowledge I really havn't seen Thanos show any combat speed that would suggest he woul fair any better again someone who can move like clark. Thanos has had issues keeping pace with elite MA with incredible mobolity before anyways, and supes has some fairly insane showings in regards to this.
Thanos has kept up with incredibly strong, amped opponents who possess superspeed and overwhelming MA ability before. Champion comes to mind.
Normally, I'd say those punches from Superman wouldn't even do anything. The only thing which he might even remotely flinch at would be when he fights at brick-ish speed and puts maximum power behind his blows. However, he's amped here and that's the reason I think Thanos would be hard pressed to take him down, just as Supes would be hard pressed the other way. So I gave 'em a 5/10 tossup.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Batman has kept up with incredibly strong, amped opponents who possess superspeed and overwhelming MA ability before. Amazo/White Martians/GL's come to mind.
I changed 2 things in this sentence to make a point.
It's also nothing that Superman hasn't done on countless occasions himself.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Normally, I'd say those punches from Superman wouldn't even do anything. The only thing which he might even remotely flinch at would be when he fights at brick-ish speed and puts maximum power behind his blows. However, he's amped here and that's the reason I think Thanos would be hard pressed to take him down, just as Supes would be hard pressed the other way. So I gave 'em a 5/10 tossup.
It's a 5/10 split between Supes and Thanos if Superman isn't amped and doesn't use his speed. In this scenario, Thanos is in severe trouble.
In this issue, Supes was depowered by quite a bit and was still able to do a superspeed BFR.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos has kept up with incredibly strong, amped opponents who possess superspeed and overwhelming MA ability before. Champion comes to mind.Normally, I'd say those punches from Superman wouldn't even do anything. The only thing which he might even remotely flinch at would be when he fights at brick-ish speed and puts maximum power behind his blows. However, he's amped here and that's the reason I think Thanos would be hard pressed to take him down, just as Supes would be hard pressed the other way. So I gave 'em a 5/10 tossup.
The difference is speed, at full capcity stipulation we would be very hard pressed to find anything indicated Thanos could lay a single hand on supes while obviously supes could move circles around him. There is a difference between a MA fighter and a MA fighter with superspeed like supes.
who is smarter in a fight? supes or thanos? that accounts for alot. i read that reed richards said that thanos`s most teriffying ability is his intelect. pretty much EVERONE knows what supes weakness is so you have got to figure somone like thanos would take note and equire a sample to make a weapon out of it "just in case" its needed some day. can thanos out think supes? possible ........but then its all in the writing isn`t it?
Originally posted by sharky137Thanos is going to make a weapon to use on someone he doesn't know about?
who is smarter in a fight? supes or thanos? that accounts for alot. i read that reed richards said that thanos`s most teriffying ability is his intelect. pretty much EVERONE knows what supes weakness is so you have got to figure somone like thanos would take note and equire a sample to make a weapon out of it "just in case" its needed some day. can thanos out think supes? possible ........but then its all in the writing isn`t it?
Originally posted by Avlon
I changed 2 things in this sentence to make a point.It's also nothing that Superman hasn't done on countless occasions himself.
Just because I can:
Originally posted by Avlon
It's a 5/10 split between Supes and Thanos if Superman isn't amped and doesn't use his speed. In this scenario, Thanos is in severe trouble.In this issue, Supes was depowered by quite a bit and was still able to do a superspeed BFR.
Nah, he's not depowered at all. He got Kryptonite paint on him in the warehouse, but washed it off...then flew all the way over to wherever that hideout was. Plenty of time to reabsorb solar energy.
In a regular Supes vs. Thanos thread, nah, no split. Not even close. Thanos has been hit by Drax's blasts before to no effect (Thanos' own K-nite, so to speak):
He's taken SS's blasts to no effect:
I've already shown Thor's hammer simply bounce off of him. Flicking his hand and KOing Thing. Taking on both Hulk and Thing one handed and easily overpowering both. KOing SS in six punches. Walking through Odin's blasts, stalemating Afro Magus w/ Soul Gem while weakened, etc.
Supes wouldn't be able to put him down at all regularly. Amped and bloodlusted, I agree, he's a completely different breed of beast.
Originally posted by EnyalusJust because I can:
Out of context. Inbetweener was depowered in this comic. 🙁
Originally posted by Enyalus
Nah, he's not depowered at all. He got Kryptonite paint on him in the warehouse, but washed it off...then flew all the way over to wherever that hideout was. Plenty of time to reabsorb solar energy.
Actually, he was depowered. Vixen/Amazo had "borrowed" a portion of his power.
Originally posted by Enyalus
In a regular Supes vs. Thanos thread, nah, no split. Not even close. Thanos has been hit by Drax's blasts before to no effect (Thanos' own K-nite, so to speak):
These weren't Drax's patented "Thanocide" blasts. They aren't even the same color nor is that the same incarnation of Drax.
When Thanocide was used..Thanos broke down like a cheap suit.
Now if you want to see impressive durability despite being exposed to a weakness...here you go:
Supes taking a nuke unscathed while being exposed to kryptonite.
Originally posted by Enyalus
He's taken SS's blasts to no effect:
Supes was hit with disintegration beams while fighting Lobo and didn't even feel them. Just as impressive.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I've already shown Thor's hammer simply bounce off of him. [/B]
The same Hammer Supes has caught with one hand while KO'ing Thor with the other.
To be fair, when braced for it both Supes and Thanos have done fine against Mjolnir...when not braced for it, both have been knocked around by it.
Even when fighting Thing and Thor... Mjolnir knocked Thanos for a loop.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Flicking his hand and KOing Thing. Taking on both Hulk and Thing one handed and easily overpowering both.
Supes has beat lar-gand and Lobo at the same time in one move. Far more impressive.
Originally posted by Enyalus
KOing SS in six punches.
One shotted Despero. Again, far more impressive.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Walking through Odin's blasts,
Flying through a sun eaters blasts. Resisting the OE. Taking a blast from the astro force without being hurt..etc.
Originally posted by Enyalus
stalemating Afro Magus w/ Soul Gem while weakened, etc.
Beating a city full of supervillains while weakened. Defeating the Apokolips army with DS in it in seconds..., smashing through an endless wave of Imperiex probes...
Again, more impressive.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Supes wouldn't be able to put him down at all regularly. Amped and bloodlusted, I agree, he's a completely different breed of beast.
I have to disagree, especially with the examples stated.
Originally posted by Avlon
Out of context. Inbetweener was depowered in this comic. 🙁
I know. That's why I didn't make a big deal about it. Still, he does provide a portion of the power needed for the IB to break out of his prison.
Originally posted by Avlon
Actually, he was depowered. Vixen/Amazo had "borrowed" a portion of his power.
Nah, that's JLA 14 and Amazo wasn't starring. The Injustice Gang was.
Originally posted by Avlon
These weren't Drax's patented "Thanocide" blasts. They aren't even the same color nor is that the same incarnation of Drax.
I've never noticed the difference in color...
Originally posted by Avlon
Supes taking a nuke unscathed while being exposed to kryptonite.
Is he actually at ground zero? 'Cause it looks like he's outside of the explosion and checking to see where Mongul and the others are.
Originally posted by Avlon
I have to disagree, especially with the examples stated.
Shall we agree to disagree? I'm not changing my mind, just as you won't. 😛
Originally posted by Enyalus
Nah, that's JLA 14 and Amazo wasn't starring. The Injustice Gang was.
Amazo wasn't in the issue...however, it was stated that Vixen's absorption (which in turn had to do with amazo) had taken Supes power.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I've never noticed the difference in color...
That's why you have a pal like me to help you out with those little details. 😉
Originally posted by Enyalus
Is he actually at ground zero? 'Cause it looks like he's outside of the explosion and checking to see where Mongul and the others are.
Yes. He actually (in a very un-superman like move) set the nuke off himself.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Shall we agree to disagree? I'm not changing my mind, just as you won't. 😛
Damn your stubborness! 😛 There are some other wicked direct comparisons, but I will leave them alone for now... 🙂
Originally posted by Enyalus
Congrats. He "felt it." A point blank attack from behind that he wasn't expecting. As opposed to having his head rocked back and being knocked to the ground by Thanos' attack, someone he was fully prepared for and fighting.What exactly was your point in bringing Ganymede into this?
lmao, being inflicted pain by such an attack already proves that Tyrant had a pathetic durability. Superman can take grenades and artillery without being affected, Tyrant gets hurt when struck by a semi-powered girl?
Throwing around scans of Thanos w/stolen technology attacking, but doing not lasting damage to Tyrant won't impress anyone.
Originally posted by Avlon
Amazo wasn't in the issue...however, it was stated that Vixen's absorption (which in turn had to do with amazo) had taken Supes power.
True. But Vixen was taken in the previous issue and even shown bound by Luthor in order to get Supes pissed. You think it'd take that long for Supes to recharge his battery?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lmao, being inflicted pain by such an attack already proves that Tyrant had a pathetic durability. Superman can take grenades and artillery without being affected, Tyrant gets hurt when struck by a semi-powered girl?
Originally posted by Stoic
Evidence suggests that the Spinsterhood was able to stun Tyrant due to the batons that they wielded. This may be why Ganymede was able to appear to harm Tyrant when other characters that were vastly superior to her were unable, an example being Beta Ray Bills hammer hitting him to no effect.The baton seemed like Tyrants proverbial wolves bane. Just to clear that up.
