Originally posted by Juntai
What's his best speed feat?
His best strength feat?I can do this all day.
This is just ridiculous. Thanos doesnt have superspeed in the same vein as superman, i could ask as well, whats superman best matter manip feat? And oh thanos doesnt have too many strength feats but he has been able to physically match warrior mad thor with the PG so he is certainly on supermans level strengthwise.
Originally posted by Juntai
What was the biggest blast he's ever survived unaided?Superman survived the anti-sun exploding, that would have wiped half a galaxy.
He also survived a point blank 700[at least] lightyear explosion. While almost powerless.
He's also survived a black hole unaided.
In the Phantom Zone, Superman was bombarded with entropy, and then simply willed himself back, reconstituting his body.Superman, when he's not toning it down for the sake of others[and especially amped and to avenge Lois and Earth here], is more outright powerful than Thanos is. His durability is greater, his speed is greater, his strength is greater. All the cards are on his table.
thanos survived being inside the HOTU,which more than anything supes has ever had to contend with.
as supes speed...what good is that when he doesnt have enough power(versitility wise) to put thanos physicaly,even thor w/power couldnt do that,in direct combat supes often gets knocked around..konvict for example,whilst thanos beats down herlad guys,like surfer who he nearly killed in 6 punches,hulk,thor drax.and thats not even taking into consideration his energy,matter,tp powers
Originally posted by Juntai
While I'm on the topic, who was the last skyfather or universal level being Thanos toppled on his own without prep or IG or some such? I bet his record against truly powerful opponents is nothing compared to Superman. And no getting smashed by Odin and running from Tyrant aren't examples of real winning.Feat for feat, Superman is better than Thanos on his own straight up in personal combat. And Thanos > Surfer > Superman doesn't cut it, because that can be done both ways. Easily.
Many of Surfers fans even think Surfer mostly gets through a fight by technicality, that he's 'suited to do it', while Thanos isn't in the same fashion. Especially not in this scenario.
Thanos took out the maker relatively easily. Which skyfather level or above beings has superman taken out by straight up overpowering without outside circumstances coming into play? Regardless it would be ABC logic at best because because thanos is probably an entirely different character from those supes fought.
And no many surfer fans believe surfer beats superman because he is straight up superior not due to any technicality.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
Thanos took out the maker relatively easily. Which skyfather level or above beings has superman taken out by straight up overpowering without outside circumstances coming into play? Regardless it would be ABC logic at best because because thanos is probably an entirely different character from those supes fought.And no many surfer fans believe surfer beats superman because he is straight up superior not due to any technicality.
what about those who are fans of both? nothing wrong with thinking norrin wins because of his energy manipulation...
Originally posted by skyfather
thanos survived being inside the HOTU,which more than anything supes has ever had to contend with.as supes speed...what good is that when he doesnt have enough power(versitility wise) to put thanos physicaly,even thor w/power couldnt do that,in direct combat supes often gets knocked around..konvict for example,whilst thanos beats down herlad guys,like surfer who he nearly killed in 6 punches,hulk,thor drax.and thats not even taking into consideration his energy,matter,tp powers
When was Thor ever as strong as Superman?
Originally posted by ultimatethor
I didnt presume anything. He is the one who made the first assumption that most surfer fans believe he wins just because of a technicality. I disagree with that and think it is false. I was not considering fans of both characters.
i misread your post, and edited accordingly...
Originally posted by Raoul
what about those who are fans of both? nothing wrong with thinking norrin wins because of his energy manipulation...
I woudnt consider one of his most prominent abilities (energy manipulation) as a "technicality". Even then it can still be debated but everyone is entitled to there opinion.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
I woudnt consider one of his most prominent abilities (energy manipulation) as a "technicality". Even then it can still be debated but everyone is entitled to there opinion.
it's not just the energy manipulation, its the often used 'cosmic awareness' combined with said manipulation...
though whether its a technicality or not, i don't know...
*doesn't mean to derail thread*
I don't get what Juntai is saying about Surfer beating Supes because he's suited to it due to his energy manipulation abilities.
Thanos has energy manipulation abilities, too. And matter manipulation abilities. And telepathic abilities. And T-Vo-esque abilities. And strength at bare minimum on par with Supes, prior to amping himself at all. And energy output that dwarfs Superman's. And durability to make Superman jealous.
And that anti-sun didn't explode. Superman intentionally absorbed -maybe some, maybe all - of it before it could destroy Earth. Not really a durability feat, but certainly a nice absorption feat.
Nonetheless, with a brief sundip I can see him taking one or two wins here, but Thanos still pulls a vast majority.
TP isn't going to help Thanos here, I don't know why you guys keep trying to mention it.
He'll never be able to mind rape Superman, as some people would like to think, as others have nearly outright stated he would.
1) Brainiac 13: B 13 threw the fear of Earth's entire population into Superman's head -- Superman broke free of the attack within a panel or so. (Superman: Endgame TPB)
2) Despero: Despero had taken control of most of the JLA. He overtook both Aquaman and J'onn Jonzz at the same time, but could not take Superman at all. (Pre-IC JLA issue)
3) Union: Union was the sum of billions of beings' mental strengths. He attacked Superman and Superman shrugged off his attack within a few panels and then beat down Union. (Superman in exile arc)
4) Neron: While in Hell, Neron attacked Superman's mind; Superman overcame it within a few panels. (Tie in to the Day of Judgment arc)
5) J'onn J'onzz: Superman throws J'onn J'onzz out of Superman's head. (Superman: King of the World). Mere contact with Superman's mind sends J'onn for a loop. (Superman: Where is Thy Sting) J'onn Jonzz states that his telepathy can not detect Superman if Superman does not wish to be detected.
6) Manchester Black: Black, a telepath so strong that not even J'onn could overcome the protection Black placed around Lex Luthor, had Superman believe that Lois was dead and that Superman had killed Black. Superman saw through the ruse and overcame Black's telepathic illusions. (Ending Battle)
7) The Fatal Five: Superman is attacked by the telepath of the Fatal Five. He resists her attack, pushing it back on her and taking her out.
8) Eclipso: Superman allows Eclipso into his head and then forces Eclipso out, just to see if he is strong enough mentally to do so. He then explains that, over the years, he has built up "a resistance to telepathy."
As for the guy saying Thanos can do Torqasm Vo?
lmao.
Originally posted by EnyalusHe does, but he isn't as ready to use them, more uses fists and blasts. TP won't help him, see above examples. lol@T-Vo. Strength, correcting you here, is at MOST on par with Superman, but certainly NOT CLOSE after Superman A) Sundips, B) See's that Lois is dead Earth is gone. Thanos' durability at times is perhaps at better, at others, it's not even close. I've given examples already.
Thanos has energy manipulation abilities, too. And matter manipulation abilities. And telepathic abilities. And T-Vo-esque abilities. And strength at bare minimum on par with Supes, prior to amping himself at all. And energy output that dwarfs Superman's. And durability to make Superman jealous.
Originally posted by Juntai
TP isn't going to help Thanos here, I don't know why you guys keep trying to mention it.*skip*
All that, and Max Lord was able to screw him over.
Originally posted by Juntai
As for the guy saying Thanos can do Torqasm Vo?
lmao.
I have evidence if you'd like. I believe it's in Iron Man #55, but I can check and post the scans once I get home.
Originally posted by EnyalusAccording to the story, Max Lord started mentally attacking Superman when he helped rebuild the JLA. This was in 1989. It wasn't a sudden telepathic attack. And Superman wasn't really given a chance to defeat it, like he normally would be. This is why Max Lord took this route, and is the reason the story pretty much explained it this way..All that, and Max Lord was able to screw him over.
Thanos won't have this luxury.
Try again.