Originally posted by EnyalusIt took a long time, effort and planning for Maxwell Lord to mind control him yeah leave out context.All that, and Max Lord was able to screw him over.
I have evidence if you'd like. I believe it's in Iron Man #55, but I can check and post the scans once I get home. [/B]
Originally posted by EnyalusFind me the scans of Thanos being able to survive stronger blasts, taking more punishment, being faster, or stronger, or anything than REGULAR Superman, let alone a sun dipped one that watched his wife and Earth die. Those are the scans you need most.
I have evidence if you'd like. I believe it's in Iron Man #55, but I can check and post the scans once I get home.
Juntai, I appreciate you explaining the Max Lord thing, because I apparently missed that context, even reading the story.
However, you posted other instances of him overcoming elite telepaths. They still screwed him up for several panels or pages most times. What is stopping Thanos from killing him via another method during that period?
But meh, he doesn't need to resort to the telepathic route. Red sun energy blasts like Amazo or Ruin produced would do the trick, even briefly sundipped.
And I would agree, there strength is probably comparable.
Originally posted by iceman24567
The Maker has no resistance feats near Superman and the Maker had mental issues if i recall please the two don't compare and the bias continues.
He nearly overtook Galactus' mind. He beat Moondragon in a psychic duel on the astral plane, and easily broke a Priest of Pama's mind - who was conditioned to human psychological perfection. He also mind raped an intelligent Drax into unconsciousness.
Just a few TP feats from Thanos.
Originally posted by EnyalusYeah i know all that but Superman actually has resistance to telepathic assaults and that Galactus feat is a bad example he got pwned once Galactus figured out what was going on.
He nearly overtook Galactus' mind. He beat Moondragon in a psychic duel on the astral plane, and easily broke a Priest of Pama's mind - who was conditioned to human psychological perfection. He also mind raped an intelligent Drax into unconsciousness.Just a few TP feats from Thanos.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah i know all that but Superman actually has resistance to telepathic assaults and that Galactus feat is a bad example he got pwned once Galactus figured out what was going on.
I get that he has resistance. I will admit that he would not be completely overtaken by Thanos' TP, and that eventually he would fight it off.
But how long would that take? My guess would be anywhere from 20 seconds to a few minutes, based on the few panels and pages it has taken him to shake it off previously.
Juntai how can you even compare superman durability with Thanos... Thanos doesn't get KO'd by once punch top tiers like Konvict. He's never been killed or physically dominated in a h2h fight the way Superman has vs. DD. I won't even bring up gas stations lol. Fact is Thanos doesn't get KO'd the way supes does throughout their histories. Furthermore, your strength feats are pointless. Of course superman has strength feats because usually for the sack of the story they will have him lifting or moving 200000000000000 tons to save earth or somebody. He's a hero genius so of course he has to move ridiculous stuff to save things or absorb explosions to save things. It's context. One is a hero and one is a villian so they aren't going to have the same feats. As far as strength goes when somebody physcially dominates characters like Thor, Thing, Surfer, Herc and Hulk often at the same time. Those are his strength feats because those are top tier strength characters who he doesn't lose to like supes does.
Furthermore, did somebody say superman is more versatile Thanos... Now I've heard it all.... Superman doesn't have near the versatility that Thanos has. Are you arguing supes is more versatile. Show me supes using matter manipulation and turning a character into stone. Show me his mind rape showings as Thanos has against top tier that thanos has. Show me supes firing the energy blasts that thanos routinely does. Thanos also has magical abilities as well as stated by Marvel which supes doesn't have. I would also say Thanos is the better MA as he's studied them for thousands of years. Supes more versatile and durable LOL LOL.
Question for Juntai or Avlon:
Discarding the infinite pages book feat, the holding the Earth in orbit feat, the lifting Spectre's body feat, and the Mageddon Wheel feat(because they're all either shared feats with an unverifiable quantity or the turning of a gear, which is designed to help with the overwhelming weight), what high strength feats does Superman have?
That's a genuine question. I'd like to know so I have a rough comparison between the two.
Originally posted by iceman24567
eh you seriously need more feats? I doubt anything from post Crisis Supes would top those.
I don't need them to be topped. I just need something...else. Like I said, all of those are either shared feats (invalid in a forum battle) or the turning of something...which doesn't translate into lifting strength or punching strength.
EDIT: For instance, I think AOS 600 has Superman lifting a large ship out of the ocean with one hand. That's damn impressive.
(I'm probably wrong about the issue #...I just know that I have it.)
Originally posted by EnyalusBasic Knowledge
Juntai, I appreciate you explaining the Max Lord thing, because I apparently missed that context, even reading the story.However, you posted other instances of him overcoming elite telepaths. They still screwed him up for several panels or pages most times. What is stopping Thanos from killing him via another method during that period?
But meh, he doesn't need to resort to the telepathic route. Red sun energy blasts like Amazo or Ruin produced would do the trick, even briefly sundipped.
And I would agree, there strength is probably comparable.
Red sun isn't a commonly known weakness, among the general population like say . . Kryptonite is.
Amazo has not only encountered the JLA and fought them countless times to know weaknesses, but he was also programmed with them. Professor Hamilton on the other hand, both A) Was one of Superman's closest allies and one of the worlds foremost experts on Superman, but also B) Worked for Lex Luthor, who probably knows more than anyone about Superman's physiology.
Do you have an example of Thanos suddenly discovering a biological weakness as such?
And just the same, in case you try to change your blast to Kryptonite, how does he suddenly know the composition of a kryptonite blast?
Superman indeed has lifting feats no doubt and certainly more then Thanos. However, it's all about context as supes has to do those things to save earth or somebody while thanos is a villian and so he won't have those same feats. That is exactly why Hulk has feats like that because he's usually doing them to save something. However, what good did all those lifting feats do the hulk, thor or the thing when they were physically dominated by Thanos. Thanos doesn't need lifting feats his vs. matches against lifting beasts proves the point. Not to mention the context of him being a villian
Originally posted by Juntai
Do you have an example of Thanos suddenly discovering a biological weakness as such?And just the same, in case you try to change your blast to Kryptonite, how does he suddenly know the composition of a kryptonite blast?
No, no, I wouldn't go so far as to say he'd switch to K-nite. And you're right about the red sun weakness.
I'll concede that train of thought.