Originally posted by Anti-MonitorI never suggested that, but it's also not the case here.
just dc bias fanboyism views that supes never loses to a marvel guyThis part....
This isn't regular Superman.
Superman has probably the highest feats of any conventional character in comics, if you leaf through his better showings.
Now sometimes this is offset in people's minds, because Superman lowers his powers to hang around on Earth and not destroy it. This has outright been stated, it's also outright obvious he could.
So you're taking all of these elements away from Superman.
Then you're adding him not only a sundip, but the loss of Earth and Lois to boot.
The loss of Lois and Earth, is going to amp him even more, because as Superman angers or stresses, he draws in and can expell drastically more energy.
This removes the lowballing, which is what people always do when they're backed into the wall with evidence against Superman anyways and can't debate their way out, so we not only thow those out... but also assures us, that this is probaly post COIE Superman, at his absolute strongest-- and then some.
Originally posted by Raoulcrylaugh0
because your credibility is sooo high right now.*reads rest of thread*
i love how its not enough for people to say they think superman loses, they have to be asses about it too...
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't think Thanos can mind rape supes for the victory. I think he could affect him no doubt and hurt him enough to do other attacks while do that. I also don't believe he could matter manipulate Supes but again supes would have to expend energy to fight it off. What it comes down to is Thanos wins because of his MA, durability, strength, intelligence and versatility. All those equal victory for the Titan
Pretty accurate.
Originally posted by skyfather
crylaugh0
credibility..who cares,when the vast majority side with whoever thanos(or other marvel guys)are facing,just so they can spite,bait marvel/thanos fanboys i.e quan.. etc
yes, because it has nothing to do with people just picking any marvel character over superman...
Superman went physicall against Dominus, who was manhandling Kismet (DC's version of Eternity).
Helped slow Spectre's body, which is composed of a consciouness that contains Eternity itself. Basically slowing the fall of something that weights as much as Eternity.
In Superman Beyond, he lifted a book containing infinite pages, with the help of Captain Marvel. (along with the other impressive ship-feat).
So I'm pretty sure, that if it came to both sides presenting high-end feats on both sides, Superman would just simply crush Thanos.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman went physicall against Dominus, who was manhandling Kismet (DC's version of Eternity).Helped slow Spectre's body, which is composed of a consciouness that contains Eternity itself. Basically slowing the fall of something that weights as much as Eternity.
In Superman Beyond, he lifted a book containing infinite pages, with the help of Captain Marvel. (along with the other impressive ship-feat).
So I'm pretty sure, that if it came to both sides presenting high-end feats on both sides, Superman would just simply crush Thanos.
I agree and I don't think anybody is disputing superman has more lifting feats. However, this is in direct relation to him being a hero and saving the day by lifting x object which ways 20000000000000 tons. We all know this but it's the context of him being a hero and thanos a villian that matters. Of course Thanos won't have those same saving feats because he's the bad guy. However, Thanos strength is shown by him directly physically dominating heroes how have similiar strength feats as you described i.e. hulk, thor, surfer, herc, thing etc etc. He physically dominates them proving his strength and what he could do if lifting was his desire. Furthermore, you claim he's physically stronger then so and so yet has been physically dominated by Seid (who has very few lifting feats like Thanos), Orion, Konvict, Kalibak etc etc. No question Superman is strong and has good durability. It's just that Thanos durability has been proven superior. Strength I really don't know it's hard to say they are a good match. The difference here is Thanos is way more versatile and intelligent and durable and a better MA. All those equal supes putting up a good fight and he could take a few but Thanos wins the majority IMO
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI disagree, amped up as he is in this thread Supes is easily the stronger, faster, more durable, and generally more powerful of the two in this thread, and not by a hair, but by a large margin.
I agree and I don't think anybody is disputing superman has more lifting feats. However, this is in direct relation to him being a hero and saving the day by lifting x object which ways 20000000000000 tons. We all know this but it's the context of him being a hero and thanos a villian that matters. Of course Thanos won't have those same saving feats because he's the bad guy. However, Thanos strength is shown by him directly physically dominating heroes how have similiar strength feats as you described i.e. hulk, thor, surfer, herc, thing etc etc. He physically dominates them proving his strength and what he could do if lifting was his desire. Furthermore, you claim he's physically stronger then so and so yet has been physically dominated by Seid (who has very few lifting feats like Thanos), Orion, Konvict, Kalibak etc etc. No question Superman is strong and has good durability. It's just that Thanos durability has been proven superior. Strength I really don't know it's hard to say they are a good match. The difference here is Thanos is way more versatile and intelligent and durable and a better MA. All those equal supes putting up a good fight and he could take a few but Thanos wins the majority IMO
What you're suggesting MIGHT be more true concerning regular Superman.
But he's certainly not even close to power to a sundipped, "my wife was killed, my home destroyed", Superman.
Originally posted by EnyalusExtrapolation, at best. Bring something quantifiable to the table.
While Thanos had the orb, he physically stalemated Tyrant. Now, yes he was amped - however, this was before his most recent upgrade. All things considered, I think the orb amp and the upgrade are about equal.And Tyrant KO'd Gladiator with one elbow, didn't he?
Originally posted by Anti-Monitor
So Supes sundips for less than a second and nows hes Skyfather/Abstract levels? 🙄 Some of you guys sound like Hulk fanboys.
Meh, a pissed off no-holding back Supes who is sunamped briefly sounds like the one who broke DS's arm and threw him into the Source Wall in Superman/Batman.
I'd give Supes a small edge in strength (possibly), a definite edge in speed, about equal in MA, and the disadvantage in about everything else.
Juntai Superman is laying is the sun. He's flying super fast right through it for what a second? That is hardly a great sun amp. Especially when you consider Thanos energy manipulation. Furthermore, as I said what it come down to is versatility... Thanos can mind rape supes enough to bother him while doing other attacks. I don't think he can beat his mind by any means and supes has shown good resistance to such but he can affect him. Same with matter manipulation.. he can affect him and make him expend energy. What is said is CERTAINLY true for regular supes as he has little chance. With a minor sun amp I think supes could take a few but the majority I disagree.