Originally posted by Enyalus
Meh, a pissed off no-holding back Supes who is sunamped briefly sounds like the one who broke DS's arm and threw him into the Source Wall in Superman/Batman.I'd give Supes a small edge in strength (possibly), a definite edge in speed, about equal in MA, and the disadvantage in about everything else.
Thanos is a way better fighter, more cunning, master at tactics and more durable. Strength is about equal and Clark def has the speed.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWhat you're not understanding is this-- not only did Superman fly through the sun, but his world was destroyed, and Lois was killed.
Juntai Superman is laying is the sun. He's flying super fast right through it for what a second? That is hardly a great sun amp. Especially when you consider Thanos energy manipulation. Furthermore, as I said what it come down to is versatility... Thanos can mind rape supes enough to bother him while doing other attacks. I don't think he can beat his mind by any means and supes has shown good resistance to such but he can affect him. Same with matter manipulation.. he can affect him and make him expend energy. What is said is CERTAINLY true for regular supes as he has little chance. With a minor sun amp I think supes could take a few but the majority I disagree.
When Superman is stressed or angry, he DRAWS in energy at vastly accelerated rates. Here, he's doing that quicker than ever before.
Originally posted by Juntai
What you're not understanding is this-- not only did Superman fly through the sun, but his world was destroyed, and Lois was killed.When Superman is stressed or angry, he DRAWS in energy at vastly accelerated rates. Here, he's doing that quicker than ever before.
And?
Thanos will be prepared for Supes. Thanos has a better chin than Supes.
Originally posted by Raoul
if those are the instances i'm thinking of, i don't recall superman exactly wanting to fight the two of them...
He was trying to stop 'Wog, and was flying at Stewart to stop him. I'm showing levels of durability. Thanos' energy blasts are much more powerful.
And showings against the Surfer and Hulk show how physically strong he is. Superman's not nearly as durable as Thanos, and he's going to go down for the majority. I give Supes 2-3 wins out of 10 in this circumstance.
Originally posted by ultimatethorI brought up many aspects, because I know Thanos can't match Supes' better feats, which is exactly the type of beast he'd be up against here- and then some.
Juntai brought up the point of thanos best strength feat early in the thread when trying to establish supes power level.
Originally posted by Enyalus
He was trying to stop 'Wog, and was flying at Stewart to stop him. I'm showing levels of durability. Thanos' energy blasts are much more powerful.And showings against the Surfer and Hulk show how physically strong he is. Superman's not nearly as durable as Thanos, and he's going to go down for the majority. I give Supes 2-3 wins out of 10 in this circumstance.
i'm not arguing whether he can beat thanos, as i simply don't have any interest in thanos as a character, and have never really read much of his stuff...
john in rebirth? superman was confused, he didn't know what was wrong, and he wasn't exactly trying to hurt one of his friends...
iirc it was the same with wog...
even if you argue durability, superman weighs 225 lbs. he can get smacked around a lot, but he still gets back up most of the time...
Originally posted by EnyalusDo you have a Thanos durability feat, that is greater than Superman taking a 700 light year explosion point blank, while nearly powerless from red sun? And not only not being KOed, but flying away, outrunning entropy radiation?
He was trying to stop 'Wog, and was flying at Stewart to stop him. I'm showing levels of durability. Thanos' energy blasts are much more powerful.And showings against the Surfer and Hulk show how physically strong he is. Superman's not nearly as durable as Thanos, and he's going to go down for the majority. I give Supes 2-3 wins out of 10 in this circumstance.
Originally posted by ultimatethorSupes strength is vastly superior in this circumstance. His durability is also exponentially amped.
Thanos has quite a durability advantage plus extremey strong shields. Putting him down will be a tough task in itself. Further he is more intelligent and has the versatility advantage. Supes combination of superior speed and comparable strength isnt going to cut it.
Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not arguing whether he can beat thanos, as i simply don't have any interest in thanos as a character, and have never really read much of his stuff...john in rebirth? superman was confused, he didn't know what was wrong, and he wasn't exactly trying to hurt one of his friends...
iirc it was the same with wog...
Ha, those are the instances I was mentioning. You're good.
Although no, I think Supes was genuinely attempting to stop Killawog. Then kinda went bloodlusted himself due to the Blackrock.
Originally posted by Enyalus
He was trying to stop 'Wog, and was flying at Stewart to stop him. I'm showing levels of durability. Thanos' energy blasts are much more powerful.And showings against the Surfer and Hulk show how physically strong he is. Superman's not nearly as durable as Thanos, and he's going to go down for the majority. I give Supes 2-3 wins out of 10 in this circumstance.
QFT.
The sunamp and being bloodlusted I can see supes getting a few wins no doubt. He's a great character with feats to back it up. However, durability wise he's not on the same level as has been proven time and time again with supes getting KO'd. Lets not forget thanos is way more versatile than supes and has many many more ways to affect supes and hurt him. Supes has been physically dominated many a time by lesser characters then thanos or top tiers one could say. Thanos never losses to top tiers physically. Why isn't it possible for thanos to energy manipulation on supes and drain some of his energy or simply soak some of it up himself?