Originally posted by Kris BlazeI don't see how it's "stupid" when it's relative to the conversation of Thing thunderclapping Wolverine ftw. 😬 Then again you ARE a Kisame fan jk.
Using scans of Wolverine being able to get up after being thunderclapped is just stupid. They still affect him even if he's able to survive them....
Look, we really don't know if Wolverine's bone claws can pierce through Thing's hyde. From the evidence he was able to do so not only against a skrull-Thing, but to characters who are either as durable or more durable than Thing anyhow. Even if one's to assume that he couldn't draw a win by stabbing or cutting through Thing's skin, he still has Thing's mouth and eyes as an in to win. Given the fact that he's been able to draw on exploiting those exact same vulnerabilities against the likes of the Hulk, Cyber, and Crusader amongst others there's really not much to dispute that he could do so with the Thing.
I'm inclined to think Thing would pull the majority in this fight, mostly because of the fact that we don't know how much damage he could/would inflict on Things skin with bone claws, but it's not unthinkable to imagine he would pull off some wins either.
Here Logan not only reacting to Cyclopes blast, but also dodging them which thing could never do.
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?...cks03rw3rn4.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?...cks03rw3rn4.jpg
I'd say that's a pretty low feat for Cyclops. He has impressed Wolverine before with his optic blasts by clearing a room full of soldiers in an instant. Wolverine even remarked something like "I hope I wasn't in the way"
Then again, Storm has dodged Cyke's blasts and she doesn't have superhuman speed/reflexes.
Logan reacting and keeping up with speed demon something thing could not accomplish
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?...ategydz6wt5.jpg
He's definitely not keeping up with SpeedDemon. The fight would have been over instantly if he could have kept up with Demon. He himself even states that he pretty much guesses where he's gonna attack next.
Logan catching a bullet something has never done or could hope to do.
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?...etnd9qi6ac4.jpg
Vs Darkness? Is that canon? I don't think crossovers usually are canon.
Logan dodging the living lightning with ease which of course thing has never once been able to come close to accomplishing this type of feat.
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?...peedfeatfh6.jpg
Granted, but he expected it and knew where exactly he was going to strike.
Logan deflecting bullets from a foot way if not closer something thing of course could never do
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?...ine34kf0hn7.jpg
Those are not bullets. They appear to be some kinds of darts propelled by compressed air.
Wolverine hands move so faster a cyborg can’t even react to the movements which are faster then things reflexes
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?...ine40vi5dd3.jpg
Evidence that this Cyborg has above average reflexes?
wolverine showing another hand movement feat thing could not hope to accomplish
http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?...owresur0wv3.jpghere another hand movement feat thing could never do.
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?...ine34kf0hn7.jpg
Not really impressive.. Storm really wasn't that quick back then.. Especially not indoors.
However that showing is contradicted by this.
1. http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/...nderclapru4.jpg
2. http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/...derclap2rt7.jpg
Look how far away the Thing is when he does the clap, of course it doesn't affect him because he's far away. Besides Mr. Fantastic is covering his right ear when Thing claps. Btw, it doesn't look like he's really putting any effort into the clap either.
Here Logan actually jokes around after then Thunder clap.
1. http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/...nderclapyd9.jpg
To be fair, that wasn't a combat situation. That same Hulk got Koed when he slid down a slope.
I don't think skills are going to come into the play here. Fancy martial arts really wont make a difference really. It's speed that counts, as it doesn't really matter where Wolverine hits. He needs to hit the torso or head, I don't think hitting his massive hands really would do much. (as in a single hit KO/kill)
I do agree that Wolverine takes the majority though. If he has adamantium.
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Wolverine's claws broke on Rogue's skin, something makes me think Thing's more durable than Rogue. Even skrull Thing (which was based on a silver age Thing, and wasn't good as the original) wasn't really damaged by bone claws.
Originally posted by MindsetIt's hard not to. & after seeing the hulk/wendigo thing, I think Marvel should never let kids write OR draw for them. Everything about that book is crap. BC Wolvie should be faster & heal faster than normal Wolvie. That's it. If retards are writing this, Wolvie wins
Scans like that make me dislike Wolverine.
okay. I need someone to explain this to me. Without Adamantium, and just regular bones how does Wolvie, beat the Thing. Besides eye gouging how does he even hurt/scratch him. I feel like everyone is way underrating Things strength. Honestly, I think Thing has a good chance of killing him, by like ripping his head off or something.
(Alright don't go crazy, this is just my opinion, feel free to prove me wrong/argue against)
Originally posted by RhinocerosYeah I'm not so sure myself. One of Rogues gimmicks is invulnerability. And, Wolverine's bone claws were more/less durable at various points in his career. Surely Thing's hyde isn't much more durable than Wendigo's or Hulk's. If at all.... 😬
Wolverine's claws broke on Rogue's skin, something makes me think Thing's more durable than Rogue. Even skrull Thing (which was based on a silver age Thing, and wasn't good as the original) wasn't really damaged by bone claws.
Originally posted by jinzinactually things hide is much more durable than hulk's skin
Yeah I'm not so sure myself. One of Rogues gimmicks is invulnerability. And, Wolverine's bone claws were more/less durable at various points in his career. Surely Thing's hyde isn't much more durable than Wendigo's or Hulk's. If at all.... 😬
hulk can be pierced by powerful bullets...thing can't
hulk's skin can be burned...thing can stand in molten lava
etc
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWnah thats just artistic flair to make the battle more interesting
^But we often see fragments of rocks coming out of him when he gets hit by heavy hitters...
you'll notice that his skin would be very chipped if he actually lost pieces during a fight since his skin takes very long to heal
Originally posted by jalek moye
do digital ones not show blood or somthing?
I expressed myself wrong, sorry. 😮 Of course they do, that wasn't my point. I was thinking about a specific scan. My point is that it's quite difficult to notice drops of blood in this scan:
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4384/savagehulkagain7yz8.jpg
(credit goes to jinzin)
Either way, if you look carefully at the first panel, you can see Logan drawing blood... now count the "snikts" and it's pretty obvious that the avalanche wasn't the only thing that KO'd Hulk.
