Originally posted by Starscream MWhat? Old school Hulk? When's the last time Green Hulk got pierced with bullets?
actually things hide is much more durable than hulk's skinhulk can be pierced by powerful bullets...thing can't
hulk's skin can be burned...thing can stand in molten lava
etc
Hulk's skin can be burned by what?
He's stood inside inferno's with virtually no issue.
Originally posted by DeathKap🤨
If wolverine can get a shot through the eye with his claw than he wins, but if Thing lands a hit on him with his regular bones than hes dead.
Hulk, Psycho Man, Wendigo, Chod, Kierrok, and Roughouse all failed at putting Logan down with one blow when he was Adamantiumless, perhaps you'd like to elaborate on what Thing brings to the table with his haymakers that these guys do not... 😐
Originally posted by jinzinthing is not a jobber like those guys are 😉
🤨Hulk, Psycho Man, Wendigo, Chod, Kierrok, and Roughouse all failed at putting Logan down with one blow when he was Adamantiumless, perhaps you'd like to elaborate on what Thing brings to the table with his haymakers that these guys do not... 😐
Hulk's a jobber? (winning record vs. Thing)
Wendigo's a jobber? (forcing Hulk to get help every recorded fight)
Psychoman's a jobber? (Wolverine saved THING from psychoman btw)
Chod's a jobber? (beat up elite shiar guards)
Roughouse maybe.
Kierrok? The guy who was ruler over all the N'garai demons and owned every member of the X-men until he met Wolverine?
Pffft.. 🙄
EPIC FAIL.
Originally posted by jinzin
🤨Hulk, Psycho Man, Wendigo, Chod, Kierrok, and Roughouse all failed at putting Logan down with one blow when he was Adamantiumless, perhaps you'd like to elaborate on what Thing brings to the table with his haymakers that these guys do not... 😐
From where are you getting the idea that Ch'od, Kierrok and Roughouse are comparable to Thing? Or Hulk/Wendigo?
If you've mentioned the latter two there shouldn't be any need to bring up the likes of Chod.
Because the discussion was about one shotting Logan..... of which the strengthclasses of every character I mentioned are either comparible to or greater than Things. 😕 You know the issue.
If they all failed at KOing Logan in one shot what gives Thing better odds?
Oh wait! it must be that he has heart! 😱
Why you need that explained to you I have no idea.
Originally posted by jinzin
Because the discussion was about one shotting Logan..... of which the strengthclasses of every character I mentioned are either comparible to or greater than Things. 😕 You know the issue.
If they all failed at KOing Logan in one shot what gives Thing better odds?Oh wait! it must be that he has heart! 😱
Why you need that explained to you I have no idea.
Only Roughouse, Chod and kierrok's strength isn't comparable to the Thing.
Based on what again?
Wolverine says he thinks Roughouse is nearly as strong as Hulk, Roughouse has the same power level in strength accredited by Marvel that Thing does.
Kierrok? Okay he's not as strong as Thing..... he's STRONGER in all likelyhood by a fair amount.
Pretty obvious when his subordinates can give Hulk a run for his money 1on1 and that Kierrok treated Colossus like a small child to boot.
As for Chod
Are you claiming a guy who two shotted Warstar ( a character that gave Collousus his hands full) isn't in the same league as Thing? 😬
Ch'od is practically an amphibian version of thing with similar strength and combat levels and reflective personality traits.. 😕
Originally posted by Rhinoceros
I'd say that's a pretty low feat for Cyclops. He has impressed Wolverine before with his optic blasts by clearing a room full of soldiers in an instant. Wolverine even remarked something like "I hope I wasn't in the way"Then again, Storm has dodged Cyke's blasts and she doesn't have superhuman speed/reflexes.
He's definitely not keeping up with SpeedDemon. The fight would have been over instantly if he could have kept up with Demon. He himself even states that he pretty much guesses where he's gonna attack next.
Vs Darkness? Is that canon? I don't think crossovers usually are canon.
Granted, but he expected it and knew where exactly he was going to strike.
Those are not bullets. They appear to be some kinds of darts propelled by compressed air.
Evidence that this Cyborg has above average reflexes?
Not really impressive.. Storm really wasn't that quick back then.. Especially not indoors.
Look how far away the Thing is when he does the clap, of course it doesn't affect him because he's far away. Besides Mr. Fantastic is covering his right ear when Thing claps. Btw, it doesn't look like he's really putting any effort into the clap either.
To be fair, that wasn't a combat situation. That same Hulk got Koed when he slid down a slope.
I don't think skills are going to come into the play here. Fancy martial arts really wont make a difference really. It's speed that counts, as it doesn't really matter where Wolverine hits. He needs to hit the torso or head, I don't think hitting his massive hands really would do much. (as in a single hit KO/kill)
I do agree that Wolverine takes the majority though. If he has adamantium.
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Wolverine's claws broke on Rogue's skin, something makes me think Thing's more durable than Rogue. Even skrull Thing (which was based on a silver age Thing, and wasn't good as the original) wasn't really damaged by bone claws.
.....................what was the relevences of any of your comments? I was saying they were feats that Thing could not do..........are you implying Thing could do any of the feats I mention? If not then your entire psot was pointless, which is why I not even gunan bother responding to most of it.
..........that Rogue was complete invulnerable..........you do realize rogue vulnberability at certian points has been actaully more durable then any other xmen............including colossus.........she was also being back by the power of the brood queen.
.........Skrull Thing was knocked out or even killed by wolverine.......so I ahve no idea what your talking about..........also none of my arguements ahd anything to do with bone claws wolverine...........did you even read my post?
also fancy martial art? None of the feat I provided were fancy martial arts........one was Krav Mega which is like the least fancy style there is..........all the feats of skill I provided were off effective styles with did not uses any fancy attacks..........
I mean your entire post which was in respones to mine made no sense.........and clearly showed you did not read/ comprehend my post........becuases your comments on it had nothing to do with what i was argueing..........
as usual
Originally posted by Starscream M
thing is not a jobber like those guys are 😉
we have masterbruce talking out his back end..........and showing his utter lack of comic kowledge.............
Originally posted by jinzin
Hulk's a jobber? (winning record vs. Thing)
Wendigo's a jobber? (forcing Hulk to get help every recorded fight)
Psychoman's a jobber? (Wolverine saved THING from psychoman btw)
Chod's a jobber? (beat up elite shiar guards)
Roughouse maybe.
Kierrok? The guy who was ruler over all the N'garai demons and owned every member of the X-men until he met Wolverine?Pffft.. 🙄
EPIC FAIL.
lol thank you Jinzin
Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah I'm not so sure myself. One of Rogues gimmicks is invulnerability. And, Wolverine's bone claws were more/less durable at various points in his career. Surely Thing's hyde isn't much more durable than Wendigo's or Hulk's. If at all.... 😬
That's true, the durability of his claws does change between stories.. I also think Rogue has withstood Wolverine's adamantium claws once. It was during the arc where the Weapon x guys have activated some implants and have taken control of Wolverine and made him kill some people. Wolverine's having nightmares, he wakes up and pops his claws. He then slashes at Rogue and pierces rogue shirt. I think Rogue says something like that she would have gotten damaged if it wasn't for her invulnerability. Do you remember the issue? I Think Thing's hide is harder to pierce than calm Hulks, but he definitely can't take blunt force as well as Hulk.
Originally posted by jinzin
[QUOTE=11409989]Originally posted by Rhinoceros
[B]To be fair, that wasn't a combat situation. That same Hulk got Koed when he slid down a slope.
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Hulk was stabbed like 20 times on the way down. 😬
It doesn't seem like Hulk was hurt much, he wasn't really screaming in pain and he did crack jokes ("What's a footsie"😉
Originally posted by rotiart
I think thing has the durability whereas hull has the healing factor... That's why blunt damage appears to affect him less... Also the stronger hull gets the mite durable he is I think
the Thing is less durable than the Hulk full stop. He even commented, in one of their fight as they fell off a tall building, that the fall, which wouldn't stop the Hulk would stop the Thing. Against boneclaw Wolverine, though, Ben wins
