Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yeah I'm retarded. I even stated myself that he doesn't increase in strength. So uh...yeah what's his level of strength?
Should be pretty high actually, he did beat wendigo, he seemed alot stronger than Savage hulk and stronger than even thor as well. Probably upper tier class 100.
Rulk is most certainly on Supermans level of strength, and his planet threatening punches prove just that, I am refering to the time when he hit A-Bomb and caused a 10 on some unnamed geological scale (presumably the Richter Scale).
This punch was certainly more powerful than the one generated by Konvikt, and as I mentioned in an earlier post, if Konvikt wanted to kill Superman, I was pretty convinced that he could have had he continued his assault after the initial take down.
If Superman fights Rulk the way he fought Konvikt he'd have his ass handed to him, and we would most likely have to prepare for another DOS. Rulk was characterized as a ruthless killer, with enough stamina to take Supermans heaviest punches. We all saw how Thor's first attack did nothing to Rulk... Superman would have to bring it, or die.
Originally posted by Stoic
Rulk is most certainly on Supermans level of strength, and his planet threatening punches prove just that, I am refering to the time when he hit A-Bomb and caused a 10 on some unnamed geological scale (presumably the Richter Scale).This punch was certainly more powerful than the one generated by Konvikt, and as I mentioned in an earlier post, if Konvikt wanted to kill Superman, I was pretty convinced that he could have had he continued his assault after the initial take down.
If Superman fights Rulk the way he fought Konvikt he'd have his ass handed to him, and we would most likely have to prepare for another DOS. Rulk was characterized as a ruthless killer, with enough stamina to take Supermans heaviest punches. We all saw how Thor's first attack did nothing to Rulk... Superman would have to bring it, or die.
Rulk's punch hardly seems at the level of supes durability, although impressive it isn't anythign supes hasn't felt before.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Rulk's punch hardly seems at the level of supes durability, although impressive it isn't anythign supes hasn't felt before.
You're right but we have also seen Superman get hurt by less as well, so a median showing would dictate that Rulk could hurt him. If Superman fought him like a dummy I can see him losing, but if he uses all of his speed to avoid being tagged (which is easy for Kal to do), Superman would wrap this up pretty fast.
Originally posted by Badabing
Carver, it hasn't gone unnoticed that you either low ball feats or don't factor in context.Superman gave Konvikt the shot. Had he been there to fight right away and not talk it would have been different. Superman and the JLA were worried about people getting hurt and moving the fight away from the city. Superman had Konvikt when Batman called him away. Wonderwoman was holding her own with Konvikt.
I've also seen this sort of thing with other people regarding Superman and Atlas. Read the entire arc and the follow up comics where it's stated that there was an outside source attacking Superman's powers and that Atlas was receiving an amp.
This sort of "debating" will stop one way or another. The reports, PMs and complaints I get for people missing the context, misunderstanding the situation or just low balling is getting ridiculous considering we're debating comics. Looking at scans does nothing without reading the comic.
It's pathetic to read through this forum and see people are actually biased for one company over another. DC and Marvel fanboys ruin the forum for everybody else.
I understand what youre say (except the atlas fight because Superman was depowered through the fight, that was plain and clear. I never commented on that fight.). I just want you to put up the scan of konvikt punching superman, its there in front of you that he was koed. I already agree that superman was giving konvikt a fight during the end so what was I low balling when again that was plain and clear and it came from supermans own mouth that he was gaining an advantage (even though he had a team backing him up.).
I just dont understand that when I say the things that I say about superman in a hulk vs wonder woman, hulk vs gladiator, hulk vs hyperion debate noone go crazy and start reporting people unless its concerning superman.
I have said that hulk would own all of the above due to his durability, rage, and strength but no one complained but when I say the same about superman I hate him. WOW.
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Originally posted by Stoic
You're right but we have also seen Superman get hurt by less as well, so a median showing would dictate that Rulk could hurt him. If Superman fought him like a dummy I can see him losing, but if he uses all of his speed to avoid being tagged (which is easy for Kal to do), Superman would wrap this up pretty fast.
I tend to think that at full capcity each character will bring there "A game"so personally im under the assumption supes could just roll with rulks punches like he has doen agaisnt other ubber beings, but that isn't to say that Rulk's punches will go completly unnoticed either. Although speed is what will decide this fight, and thusly supes takes it.
Originally posted by carver9Only the first part was for you since I haven't been around to harass you lately. biscuits
I understand what youre say (except the atlas fight because Superman was depowered through the fight, that was plain and clear. I never commented on that fight.). I just want you to put up the scan of konvikt punching superman, its there in front of you that he was koed. I already agree that superman was giving konvikt a fight during the end so what was I low balling when again that was plain and clear and it came from supermans own mouth that he was gaining an advantage (even though he had a team backing him up.).I just dont understand that when I say the things that I say about superman in a hulk vs wonder woman, hulk vs gladiator, hulk vs hyperion debate noone go crazy and start reporting people unless its concerning superman.
I have said that hulk would own all of the above due to his durability, rage, and strength but no one complained but when I say the same about superman I hate him. WOW.
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The rest was just stuff I wanted too address since a bunch of Superman vs threads have been in the reports.