Darkseid vs The Juggernaut

Started by Juntai11 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Except DS has been completely revamped as a character [a 5th World being, and such]. Having said that, the ALE is part of his 'new' powerset. There's been no reason to think otherwise, thus far.
Also true.

Originally posted by Galan007
Except DS has been completely revamped as a character [a 5th World being, and such]. Having said that, the ALE is part of his 'new' powerset. There's been no reason to think otherwise, thus far.

That's a good point.

Originally posted by Juntai
Sort of like Thor gets debated these days as if he posses the Odinforce, unless it says "classic'. Except it's a DC character, so people *****. 😉

You mean when Galen says that Classic Thor is stronger than Current Thor?

He's got the same power as Odin. He should be as strong, if not stronger (due to Mjolnir.)

Originally posted by Enyalus
That's a good point.

You mean when Galen says that Classic Thor is stronger than Current Thor?

He's got the same power as Odin. He should be as strong, if not stronger (due to Mjolnir.)

So you're cool with Thor being debated as current, with a powerup, but not DS?

I smells massive double-standards.

Not that I expected anything else.

Originally posted by Juntai
So you're cool with Thor being debated as current, with a powerup, but not DS?

I smells massive double-standards.

Not that I expected anything else.

I think Eny just linked things together as far as 'current' Darkseid goes.

Since 5th-World DS hasn't really been extrapolated on much, many people tend to revert back to his '4th-World' self.... Forgetting that he's been changed entirely.

lol @ Juntai taking these b1tches down a peg.

Originally posted by Juntai
So you're cool with Thor being debated as current, with a powerup, but not DS?

I smells massive double-standards.

Not that I expected anything else.

No, no, Galan explained it to me well and I've got no issues with it now. And I already said Current DS would have no trouble with Juggy.

Thor doesn't have a powerup, though. Its his own power now. That's why they renamed it the Thorforce.

Current DS stomps.

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I don't know what the problem is but here's the rule on character versions:

Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it'll be assumed that it's the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.

Just because a thread was made last year doesn't mean we use last year's character. Unless it says a specific version, the default is current the version.

Originally posted by Badabing
I don't know what the problem is but here's the rule on character versions:

Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, [b]it'll be assumed that it's the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter,
the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.

Just because a thread was made last year doesn't mean we use last year's character. Unless it says a specific version, the default is current the version. [/B]

👆

Juggernaut wins
😖hifty:

Originally posted by Galan007
As far as we know, the ALE is part of current Darkseid's standard powerset - as we've yet to see him without it.

Not to mention the ALE is knowledge, it's not like the IG.

Originally posted by Allankles
Not to mention the ALE is knowledge, it's not like the IG.
Like Jun said, it's quite literally a 'mathematical' equation which is/was projected to those whom are enslaved. However, it should still be noted that while other characters are capable of reciting the ALE in order to ensnare others, Darkseid's control over it appears to be absolute. Nearly every sentient being appears to be operating under his will.

Originally posted by Galan007
Like Jun said, it's quite literally a 'mathematical' equation which is projected to those whom are enslaved. However, it should still be noted that while other characters are capable of reciting the ALE in order to ensnare others, Darkseid's control over it appears to be absolute. Nearly every sentient being appears to be operating under his will.

I thought three billion humans were enslaved. There's six billion on Earth...right?

Originally posted by Enyalus
I thought three billion humans were enslaved. There's six billion on Earth...right?
I guess Darkseid's only goal [immediately, at least] was to control China. ermmnone

Originally posted by Enyalus
I thought three billion humans were enslaved. There's six billion on Earth...right?

Many are dead some are still in hiding. Some (like children) are being conditioned by DS justifiers in secret and the rest have been turned into omacs by checkmate.

Originally posted by Galan007
I guess Darkseid's only goal [immediately, at least] was to control China. ermmnone

😂

Just pointing out that its not 'nearly every sentient being.'

Originally posted by Anti-Monitor
Current DS stomps.
Yep. This thread now reeks of spite. How does juggs have a chance against the ale?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Just pointing out that its not 'nearly every sentient being.'
Give it time. iirc, Darkseid just got off of his chair... so..... Look out. ermmnone

Anyway, if Vandal Savage can use the ALE to affect Spectre, I don't see there being an issue with DS using it to control the entirety of earth's populace.

Originally posted by Enyalus
😂

Just pointing out that its not 'nearly every sentient being.'

3 billion are those that have been infected. It's interesting that a few might have an immunity to the ALE. We know Mr. Miracle is immune because he is only other being with knowledge of the full ALE.