Illidan Stormrage VS Sephiroth

Everyone felt like that. He didn't choose Red specifically out of the bunch. Infact, he would have chose Cloud over anyone.

The fact that neither Cloud nor Sephiroth touched the top of Shinra Tower, where it collapsed, disproves your theory, as well as nothing else was falling apart before Cloud and Sephiroth began fighting. Infact, the only part where anything fell apart was when Sephiroth brought down the tower.

No, it isn't. A game-mechanic would be like in the flashback, Sephiroth can't be damaged at all. When Sephiroth displays an immunity to a spell, it's not a mechanic.

BUt he didnt actually rip any body parts off of anyone?

The whole city was being attacked by the negative lifestream and was in a bad way anyway, the place was very badly damaged. Regardless, thats still not to assume Sephiroth used any kind of TK, all he did was look up...thats it....

ofc its a mechanic, if its in the gameplay..then its in the gameplay....does your information come from players using spells on Sephiroth or an actual cinematic? if its cinematic then please show me the evidence.

He was toying with them. He could have easily ripped them apart, but, being the overconfident person he is, let them live.

There are other people in fiction that use TK by looking at them 😐

I don't feel like going on youtube and spending an hour looking for a video uhuh

But nothing can prove that he can destroy beings using his apprent TK, toying around with them doesnt mean he can destroy anyone using TK. I can toy around with a bar of steel, tapping it, rolling it etc, but if I put my full strength into trying to break it I could never do it.

There probably are, thing is most of them likely have much better ways of showing them doing it, or more obvious actions. If its a comic it is likely said, if its a video game its usually shown by a diffrent graphic. Sephiroth showed nothing more than "looking" up.

fine....then your case is not proven for the while

Except for the fact that when he looked up, the top of the tower collapsed 😐

sephiroth could easily pop someones head off. Pretty much anyone who has tk can.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
sephiroth could easily pop someones head off. Pretty much anyone who has tk can.

no....I disagree, for example Kain can lift up human bodies with ease, but he cant tear someones head off, never has. Same with a lot of characters who use TK, having enough force to lift up someone and having enough force to destroy a piece of their body is very diffrent.

Originally posted by King-Fingolfin
Except for the fact that when he looked up, the top of the tower collapsed 😐

That can be expalined for many reasons, perhaps he simply heard it breaking and shattering above him and looked up just as it started to break away from the tower? this "coincidence" could likely be the reason.

BT, if you think the Shinra tower fell for no reason(and Sephiroth made a gesture towards it when it fell, he didn't just look up), then GTFO, would you kindly?

erm no, show me evidence please dear one...

and show me this gesture, I dont remember any gesture...was it a gesture that was undeniably a Telekinetic conjure?

And I didnt say it fell for "no" reason did I? no...

Bioshock quote failure.

Well, you can see Sephiroth clench his fist like he's drying to crush something in it, then he says something like "Get on your knees, beg for forgiveness", looks up and the top of the building falls down.

Seriously, coincidences like that just don't really happen in video games/movies. Not to say that it would have taken Sephiroth a lot of telekinetic power to bring it down considering the building was in a such a sorry state in the first place. Screw with a seam or two and it all goes crashing.

So you are admitting the building was in a sorry state? I mean seriously, anyone who has seen the film, the building is not in a good condition at all. Assuming him looking up actually brought the roof down and not the other way around (the roof coming down made him look up) is ludicrious without hard evidence. It was far from obvious that Sephiroth used TK at that moment, for all we know he heard it was cracking and breaking away and said that line to taunt Cloud as the debris was about to apprently smash him.

What's to admit, it's pretty obvious that the whole place was all screwed up.

Of course the building(hell, the city) is in a shit state, but to make such a claim as it just fell for the sake of falling, or saying that it was not clear that Sephiroth brought it down, well, that would make you an idiot now wouldn't it? 🙂

no that would make you an assumption loving idiot with no real proof if you assumed it was Sephiroth pulling down the building even though the thing was badly damaged anyway just because sephiroth looked up...

Maybe not time something falls ill blame myself or someone nearby for "looking" at it because TGE thinks Id be stupid to think it fell becaue of physical causes. The building and the whole city was fvucked up, simple....theres no reason to belive just because Sephiroth looked up that he TKed and could not hear it breaking away, knew it was about ot break or used some super soldier senses to predict its damage. A piece of building of that size doesnt even come close to falling without nobody noticing, the sounds it would make and its overall state would be obvious to a normal human, let alone super/enhanced.

Not really, since it began breaking away after he looked at it 😐

Can you prove this? it may have completly smashed off until he looked up at it, but the actual damage to the construction and the breaking of the buildings support up the top there could have broken long before the whole building top crashed down. When the Titanic split in two pieces, the first time anyone heard notice of it about to happen isnt when it was in two bits, its the incredible creaking and sound of tension that happenis beforehand. Now this is normal humans, now if Sephiorth has enhanced senses, he would have sensed the supports breaking before even then.

The proof he used some sort of TK is zero, its simply an inconclusive assumption, nothing actually states and theres no bullet hard evidence that he did so, him looking up as the piece falls is not good enough.

You can't prove anymore that the building just "happened" to collapse conveniently during Sephiroth and Clouds battle. 😐

http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22917
some of illidan's magic capabilities

http://www.wowwiki.com/Illidan_Stormrage more info about him.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR PROOF OF ILLIDAN'S SPELLS BEING USED IN A CINEMATIC, OR IN THE ACTUAL STORY, OR FOR ALL I KNOW, IT'S ALL GAMEPLAY!

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131 c wut i did thar?

Nah, but here are some of Sephiroth's spells

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Materia