Originally posted by Allankles
In Superman #153 Supes makes a roundtrip from Saturn to the Sun in a few seconds this puts his speed in excess of 1000X the speed of light over 10 times faster than Glads top speed.
And Nova in SS #88 flew from somewhere beyond our solar system to Earth, grabbed Drax and flew back in the span of about three sentences.
Shit like that means nothing. It happens all the time.
Originally posted by Galan007
I wouldn't say it means 'nothing.'
I exaggerate, because I've already made my point and now my patience is a bit stretched.
On panel, Glads is 100x faster than light. Plenty of people have traveled across galaxies and universes before. I think Thor's even done it. Titan spacecrafts have done so. Ronan did it. I'm sure you can think of examples in DC where characters do so.
It's not that big of a deal. Writers don't pay attention to specifics a lot of times. Hell, I posted scans of Blue Supes flying Cyborg to the sun in a panel. You'd think that was multiple times FTL, but in fact he states he's going just under the speed of light.
Unless its stated, it doesn't mean much.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345Oh right... we take what we can make of a feat, rather than what was said on panel...
What he was wondering has nothing to do with the on panel evidence of him traveling multi light years in under 3 hours,and of course hes wondering if hes ftl considering he has been tanking planet rending red sun blasts for an extended amount of time and was getting weaker and weaker the closer he got to the things core,so he traveled a minimum of 2+light years in under 3 hours while drastically weakened which puts him at around 400 times the speed of light.
"I don't know if the boy's usually faster than light, but that day he was tired. He wasn't going to make it."
Originally posted by Enyalus
And Nova in SS #88 flew from somewhere beyond our solar system to Earth, grabbed Drax and flew back in the span of about three sentences.Shit like that means nothing. It happens all the time.
The feat I posted had nothing to do with sentences but a measure of time. Supes made the round trip in literally a matter of seconds.
Back to this fight it reminds me of the Emperor Joker story arch where Joker smashes Supes around (with myx's powers) even removes his heart and Supes still keeps on fighting. The guy operates on sheer will power when the chips are down he'd handle Glads.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I exaggerate, because I've already made my point and now my patience is a bit stretched.On panel, Glads is 100x faster than light. Plenty of people have traveled across galaxies and universes before. I think Thor's even done it. Titan spacecrafts have done so. Ronan did it. I'm sure you can think of examples in DC where characters do so.
It's not that big of a deal. Writers don't pay attention to specifics a lot of times. Hell, I posted scans of Blue Supes flying Cyborg to the sun in a panel. You'd think that was multiple times FTL, but in fact he states he's going just under the speed of light.
Unless its stated, it doesn't mean much.
To each his own I've seen Supes move at speeds well in excess of 100xlight speed when he's needed to.
Originally posted by I'm Bran
Oh right... we take what we can make of a feat, rather than what was said on panel..."I don't know if the boy's [b]usually
faster than light, but that day he was tired. He wasn't going to make it." [/B]
I'm not saying Vulcan is really great or anything and far from even being better than Supes. I just want to say, he was able to affect any type of energy on any wavelength or spectrum. That is his power set.
But when Glads became serious Vulcan should have been able to at least slow him down. Hit him with something, Not like Glads dodged anything or whatever. He simple believed that he couldn't be effected by him and Vulcan, he didn't say "Dman how did you get so strong!" we was more confused. As if he had no powers whatsever. I thought that was amazing... I hope you understand what i'm saying. Glads was able to completely nullify vulcan's powers on him.
Also if you want to talk about will power and psioic induced strength, glads got that in spades over Supes. Yeah his is determined but That is essentially the source of Glad's powers.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Cause pa is the exact expert on supes right?what was said on panel is that superman traveled several lightyears in under 3 hours while weakened there is no arguing it at all not even a little,again we have a distance we have a time we can make a calculation and that calculation says superman shits on gladiators speed im sorry that hurts your feelings,flying to different galaxies in no time at all is a speed feat,flying from vega to earth in under a minute is a speed feat.
You know trying to apply real and exact math to comics is a terrible idea, right? 😮
Didn't we go over this in that "Flash thread"
Writers sometimes have no idea the speed or strength they are allowing their characters exemplify.
Its doesn't really matter on panel visiuals show it happening,we have seen it several times superman has traveled measurable distances in measurable time,hell im using dialogue for one of supermans feats and that dialogue has him crossing a nebula in under 3 hours while drained from red sun...again>>>>>>>>>>>100x the speed of light.
Hmm...
I'd actually say Gladiator as he tends to be more ruthless, and doesn't have any immediate weaknesses for Supes to exploit beyond his confidence which isn't a large factor in this match due to the stakes. It's pretty much a draw in terms of overall power. If combat moves anywhere near a red sun Supes is in big trouble because Gladiator won't be effected.
However, I also admittedly hate Superman.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345He's the narrator of the story. He's what the writer intended, but from the viewpoint of a comic character. In fact, Pa knows how far it is away, and yet he still questions how fast Superman can travel...
Cause pa is the exact expert on supes right?what was said on panel is that superman traveled several lightyears in under 3 hours while weakened there is no arguing it at all not even a little,again we have a distance we have a time we can make a calculation and that calculation says superman shits on gladiators speed im sorry that hurts your feelings,flying to different galaxies in no time at all is a speed feat,flying from vega to earth in under a minute is a speed feat.
You're an idiot if you think I care about all around speed... in fact, I said I don't care in my first post that I quoted you in (apparently you're comprehension is as bad as your posts). All I'm saying is that that particular scene wasn't supposed to be Superman traveling at an uber ridiculous flight speed.
That's neat. I don't care about the other feats, as I said before.
T-vo says superman doesn't even have to fight him physically...or he can make illusions and blind side gladiator,except that scene you keep talking about is after he was nearly all the way depowered and im talking about when he originally flew there so again you have no argument,and my posts are just fine.