Gladiator/w the Shi'ar empire on the line vs Superman/w Earth on the line

Yep I said that word for word.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Yep I said that word for word.

Hasn't Erads beaten Supes while both used T-Vo?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
except that scene you keep talking about is after he was nearly all the way depowered and im talking about when he originally flew there so again you have no argument,and my posts are just fine.

Originally posted by Character meant to be writer's intention
"I don't know if the boy's usually faster than light, but that day he was tired. He wasn't going to make it."

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
and my posts are just fine.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
T-vo says superman doesn't even have to fight him physically...or he can make illusions and blind side gladiator,except that scene you keep talking about is after he was nearly all the way depowered and im talking about when he originally flew there so again you have no argument,and my posts are just fine.

He says I don't know so we must automatically assume hes not ftl,we will ignore other instances of ftl travel we will also ignore superman flying several light years in under 3 hours(several hundred times the speed of light)right again my posts are just fine and you have no point at all,he flew the size of a nebula(several hundred light years)while weakened and in under 3 hours the end no arguing no debating it happened period.

I say Gladiator his confidence would be through the roof and he would be near impervious to Superman's attacks..By the way what the **** is T-VO

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
He says I don't know so we must automatically assume hes not ftl,we will ignore other instances of ftl travel we will also ignore superman flying several light years in under 3 hours(several hundred times the speed of light)right again my posts are just fine and you have no point at all,he flew the size of a nebula(several hundred light years)while weakened and in under 3 hours the end no arguing no debating it happened period.

A vaguely defined mental power of Superman's that allows him to have psychic powers,dispel magic,tk...pretty much anything the plot can call for I believe this is about the best explanation I could find for ithttp://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman585jk0.jpg
on the previous page superman says the universe notes our will and responds to it...so it could be like reality warping I don't know,yeah bla bla bla stfu mindset good to see you have nothing useful to say as usual.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
He says I don't know so we must automatically assume hes not ftl,we will ignore other instances of ftl travel we will also ignore superman flying several light years in under 3 hours(several hundred times the speed of light)right again my posts are just fine and you have no point at all,he flew the size of a nebula(several hundred light years)while weakened and in under 3 hours the end no arguing no debating it happened period.

You do realize that he knew he was light years away, and yet he still says that he doesn't know if Superman is above light speed, don't you?

We do ignore other scenes, because you're trying to validate the scene to me, not validate his travel speed. Otherwise, you wouldn't have continued this discussion after I told you many times that I was only talking about that particular scene.

The Sun Eater was the size of a Nebula, it doesn't mean he was anywhere close to it... or that he flew that distance.

Also, it isn't several hundred times the speed of light if you want to get technical, it's several thousand and more at the very least. 😬
If you're flying let's say two light yearz in three hours, that means you're traveling in three hours the distance that it would take light two years to reach.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
The big run on sentence says that your posts are awesome!

You do realize that he knew he was light years away, and yet he still says that he doesn't know if Superman is above light speed, don't you?

We do ignore other scenes, because you're trying to validate the scene to me, not validate his travel speed. Otherwise, you wouldn't have continued this discussion after I told you many times that I was only talking about that particular scene.

The Sun Eater was the size of a Nebula, it doesn't mean he was anywhere close to it... or that he flew that distance.

Also, it isn't several hundred times the speed of light if you want to get technical, it's several thousand and more at the very least. 😬

During that instance at the end he probably wasn't ftl considering he had lost so much power merely going inside the the thing...and he had to go inside it to deliver the bomb..............so yes he flew that distance and yes he was close to it as in inside the freaking thing jesus I give up if you want to believe he wasn't ftl then be my guest its a retarded thing to believe but go for it.

Kal-El

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And again thats after superman is nearly powerless after his powers were evaporating like morning dew after he has takin multiple red sun shots from a freaking sun eater and its also just pa kents opinion.

During that instance at the end he probably wasn't ftl considering he had lost so much power merely going inside the the thing...and he had to go inside it to deliver the bomb..............so yes he flew that distance and yes he was close to it as in inside the freaking thing jesus I give up if you want to believe he wasn't ftl getting then be my guest its a retarded thing to believe but go for it.

How do we know he wasn't going FTL since that was only Pa's opinion? 🙂

I was only following what you were saying.
Either way, just because the Sun Eater was a Nebula in size, it doesn't mean Superman traveled that distance.

OK, I'll believe what I want.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adventuresofsuperman585jk0.jpg

Except we know he travelled light years in under 3 hours,we know that the suneater was light years away,we know he went inside of it to deliver the bomb and we know that it is lightyears across.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Except we know he travelled light years in under 3 hours,we know that the suneater was light years away,we know he went inside of it to deliver the bomb and we know that it is lightyears across.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
jesus I give up

No we don't. We only know that he went inside it. The rest are opinions (the Nebula one was Superman's opinion).

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
and its also just pa kents opinion.

Or are we supposed to exclude one thing to fit our needs?

Yes we do know it was light years away,superman has super sight and can see what size something is from far away,we know he flew inside it.

Theres a difference between the guy who has no super powers and doesn't know how fast superman travels and the hard math and supermans own comments using his super powers if you can't see that I don't know what to tell you,but im not sure why we are arguing this because even when we take what pa kent says IT ONLY SAYS I DON'T KNOW it doesn't say he doesn't go at the speed of light or anything like that,he crossed light years in under 3 hours fact that puts him at over 100x the speed of light fact there is no more arguing fact.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Yes we do know it was light years away,superman has super sight and can see what size something is from far away,we know he flew inside it.

Theres a difference between the guy who has no super powers and doesn't know how fast superman travels and the hard math and supermans own comments using his super powers if you can't see that I don't know what to tell you,but im not sure why we are arguing this because even when we take what pa kent says IT ONLY SAYS I DON'T KNOW it doesn't say he doesn't go at the speed of light or anything like that,he crossed light years in under 3 hours fact that puts him at over 100x the speed of light fact there is no more arguing fact.

The same guy said that he was light years away, and that he didn't know if Superman can travel faster than light.

He says he doesn't know if he usually travels faster than light (indicating that he wasn't traveling that speed in the issue).
What it does tell us though, is the writer intended to not make him traveling at such a ridiculous speed that you can bust your rocks off to later. He questions if Superman can travel faster than light, and yet he would know how far Clark has traveled. Which means that even though it doesn't make sense, it means he wasn't traveling at thousands of times the speed of light, and it means he wasn't traveling faster than the speed of light in that issue.

Superman CAN travel faster then SOL outside of earths atmosphere. However, I don't think an actualy number is given. My guess is Superman can go about 5x speed of light(SOL). He has broken through a Black hole which requires the speed to be higher then SOL. He has taken DS to the Sun in a few seconds. He even traveled from earth to Saturn in 4 minutes(I forgot the exact time).

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman CAN travel faster then SOL outside of earths atmosphere.

Anyway, I highly doubt that Earth's atmosphere would slow him down... he just doesn't need to ever go such speed on the planet.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
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Anyway, I highly doubt that Earth's atmosphere would slow him down... he just doesn't need to ever go such speed on the planet.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It's not about slowing him down. If I remember correctly, it was stated that it would create something like a black hole, or just make a huge amount of damage, so he avoids hitting SOL