Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS doesn't have MA and is overall a shitty fighter up close, seems consistent with his character and BP is a god -like MA afterall.
Supes gets KO'd by gas station explosions. SS causes planet-sized explosions.
SS kills Supes easily.
How easy was that to take one showing and base your entire opinion off it?
Originally posted by The Great Galen
With supes fighting smarlty with superior stats and a plot device T-VO, SS is easiar then nailing a 3sum.
no.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS doesn't have MA and is overall a shitty fighter up close, seems consistent with his character and BP is a god -like MA afterall.
the armbar is spidey firelord. its not a valid argument.
it was a bullshit comic.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Supes gets KO'd by gas station explosions. SS causes planet-sized explosions.SS kills Supes easily.
How easy was that to take one showing and base your entire opinion off it?
Yeah but a explosion is more powerful then a simple submission though...and u were the one low balling supes with the ruin thing awhile ago so are you really in any position to talk.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS doesn't have MA and is overall a shitty fighter up close, seems consistent with his character and BP is a god -like MA afterall.
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Dude you just called the entire Avengers putting a weakend Supes down PIS and then turn around and say that Black Panther forcibly putting Surfer in a hammer lock is fine? I really don't know what to say to this other than ask how are you even allowed to post here?
Originally posted by The Great Galen
1.Yes, just look at the feats.2. I don't think it was BS personally.
i know both man's feats. surfer has comparable speed, and can blast clark. it won't be easy, but there's no way superman should be beating norrin in anything other than a slugfest.
how can you not? you can't armbar someone thousands of times stronger than you. you can try, sure. and riding the board? mcduffie doesn't know shit about surfer. he seems to know less about norrin than he does about clark, and thats saying something.
mcduffie offered an apology afterwards anyways.
Originally posted by tdazz
😑 👇Dude you just called the entire Avengers putting a weakend Supes down PIS and then turn around and say that Black Panther forcibly putting Surfer in a hammer lock is fine? I really don't know what to say to this other than ask how are you even allowed to post here?
ive been wondering the same thing. he doesnt even read the comics he just makes flase statements as he has shown once again in this thread 🙁
I gave my reasons, SS doesn't have a wealth of impressive combat or MA showings and BP is a formidable h2h fighter. Maybe it was slighlt PIS because BP doesn't have the physical strength requried, but SS's strength seems to flutate a lot so I don't know if at his base he even approaches class 100.
Supes situation was pure PIS because there have been other instances of supes withstanding more physically demanding beatings while weakened and hsurviving just fine.
Originally posted by Raoul
i know both man's feats. surfer has comparable speed, and can blast clark. it won't be easy, but there's no way superman should be beating norrin in anything other than a slugfest.how can you not? you can't armbar someone thousands of times stronger than you. you can try, sure. and riding the board? mcduffie doesn't know shit about surfer. he seems to know less about norrin than he does about clark, and thats saying something.
mcduffie offered an apology afterwards anyways.
1.SS doesn't have comparable speed, he has travelling speed and some rare instances of intiation blast superfast....all which supes has in spades and to far more impressive degrees.
2. When did mc apologize, it was written off then?
Originally posted by The Great Galen
I gave my reasons, SS doesn't have a wealth of impressive combat or MA showings and BP is a formidable h2h fighter. Maybe it was slighlt PIS because BP doesn't have the physical strength requried, but SS's strength seems to flutate a lot so I don't know if at his base he even approaches class 100.Supes situation was pure PIS because there have been other instances of supes withstanding more physically demanding beatings while weakened and hsurviving just fine.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
I gave my reasons, SS doesn't have a wealth of impressive combat or MA showings and BP is a formidable h2h fighter. Maybe it was slighlt PIS because BP doesn't have the physical strength requried, but SS's strength seems to flutate a lot so I don't know if at his base he even approaches class 100.
SS is literally, at bare minimum, a billion times stronger, if not moreso. He's overpowered the Hulk twice physically before his recent upgrade from Galactus, and was even physically stalemating Champion with the Quantum Bands (which gave him even greater power than with the Power Gem.)
Also, he can phase like J'onn can. In other words, yes, it was PIS. Unquestionably.
Originally posted by The Great Galensomeone who knows far more about superman pwned you, call it quits.
1.SS doesn't have comparable speed, he has travelling speed and some rare instances of intiation blast superfast....all which supes has in spades and to far more impressive degrees.2. When did mc apologize, it was written off then?
Originally posted by The Great Galen
1.SS doesn't have comparable speed, he has travelling speed and some rare instances of intiation blast superfast....all which supes has in spades and to far more impressive degrees.2. When did mc apologize, it was written off then?
ss does have comparable speed. you could argue for either. Superman fights on earth more than ss, so has to have more showings, but norrin has done enough to warrant him being fast.
as fast as superman? not imo, but close enough.
he apologised soon after the comic came out, saying he'd misunderstood the nature of the surfer's physical form, or something...
Originally posted by Raoul
ss does have comparable speed. you could argue for either. Superman fights on earth more than ss, so has to have more showings, but norrin has done enough to warrant him being fast.as fast as superman? not imo, but close enough.
he apologised soon after the comic came out, saying he'd misunderstood the nature of the surfer's physical form, or something...
1. Again, not talking about travelling speed I mean how they ultalize speed in combat...most marvel top tiers seem to have a issue of not being able to fight at the same speed that they fly. He has comparable travel feats but not combat feats so there is a difference.
2. Untill marvel makes a comment about that particular situation being the cause of"insert plot device explanation here"I still see it as a valid gauge of Marvel's opinion of SS power.