Elektra vs Blade

Started by Battlehammer77 pages

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well its probably class 25 because Spiderman before that was classifed as being class 15, and at that time class 15 wasnt 10-15. Since Spiderman stated that he had an upgrade theres a good chance he was 20-25.

not really. He was not stated to have increased strength only speed and spidersenses.

most all evidences points to 15 tons. Nothing suggest 25 tons.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
not really. He was not stated to have increased strength only speed and spidersenses.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1968/feat29speedstrengthdq1.jpg

Yeah it did. 😐

Originally posted by Battlehammer

most all evidences points to 15 tons. Nothing suggest 25 tons.

Yeah? Ok feel free to prove to us that all the evidence points to it being class 15 and not 25. Theres no way he could have had class 25 strength. What proof is there that class 25 is 15-25 anyway?

15 is stronger than 10 anyway so it doesnt really matter.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well its probably class 25 because Spiderman before that was classifed as being class 15, and at that time class 15 wasnt 10-15. Since Spiderman stated that he had an upgrade theres a good chance he was 20-25.

Spider-man definitely has the feats to back that up too.

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
Spider-man definitely has the feats to back that up too.

Thats what I was thinking.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes I believe it was mungi who descovered this. Class 25 simply means between 10 and 25 tons. Not that they are 25 tonner.
what is the evidence for this?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
not really. He was not stated to have increased strength only speed and spidersenses.

most all evidences points to 15 tons. Nothing suggest 25 tons.

He caught Rhino's punch and stopped it when he was rated at 20 tons.

Originally posted by Starscream M
what is the evidence for this?
He's right. And I believe I was the one who noticed tihs, though it may have been Mungi.

However Spiderman was rated at 20 tons which would all into the Class 25 category.

Class 25 means 25 ton range, the only class that has variable range is class 100.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

At any rate heres Blade holding off a vampiric Spiderman who was class 25 at the time and also a bloodlusted vampire.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladevsSpiderman.jpg

I was gonna bring this up but didn't want to see people start crying.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He caught Rhino's punch and stopped it when he was rated at 20 tons.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/RhinoandSpidey2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/RhinoandSpidey3.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I was gonna bring this up but didn't want to see people start crying.
😂

Ok thats the end of that. 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

The point is that it doesnt prove his stronger than Blade because alot of skill was involved.
And the point is skewed. Because unless she's bullseye, a ludicrous amount of strength had to be used to accomplish that feat as well.

As the feat posted of Blade would demonstrate, he's either nowhere near as skilled as Elektra, or weaker.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Thats a better example how strong is SS?
stated class 10 in the very comic they fought.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
As usual you manage not to get the point because if you did you would realise that sai throwing feats isnt that concrete.
As usual you try to pitifully cover up your lack of reasonable rationale or knowledge using false bravado. If you didn't you'd realize that it's still a better feat than anything Blade has produced regardless.. So she's either stronger than Blade, or hits far harder because he's "more skilled" to such a degree.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Elektra is not Bullseye but other street levelers included Elektra use skill in alot of feats so it doesnt neccesarily prove that she is stronger. Get it?
no shit, but until even Bullseye deonstrates the ability to do what Elektra did it wasn't a feat based on skill alone... Unless of course Elektra's better than Bullseye.. as I said I have no idea how you think that helps your argument here.

Originally posted by iceman24567
10 tons? Is he even close to that?
both spiderman anspiderwoman have commented on his overwhelming strength, and he breifly outslugged Wolverine with fists alone.

Originally posted by jinzin
both spiderman anspiderwoman have commented on his overwhelming strength, and he breifly outslugged Wolverine with fists alone.
outslugging wolverine proves nothing about his strength

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
The problem again you have is that it doesnt conclusively prove that Elektra is stronger than Blade.

Captain America has been shown butting his shields against US Agent does that mean he has class 10 strength? Nope it means hes very skillful and has low superhuman strength.

Strange that they said he had class 10 strength thats the only place I have seen him stated as such.

At any rate heres Blade holding off a vampiric Spiderman who was class 25 at the time and also a bloodlusted vampire.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladevsSpiderman.jpg

No.. the problem is that until Blade has one decent indicator of his strength level that doesn't rely on random hyporbolic statements, it very much DOES prove that she's stronger than Blade.. since.. y'know it's a better strength feat than he's ever produced.

Cap stopping US agent may not prove he's class 10, but as you said it DOES prove he has superhuman strength, and like Elektra it IS a better feat than anything Blade has ever produced which brings us full cirle to the Cap>Blade in strength argument. 😐

And... 😂 yeah that's what Blade's doing.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He was flat out stated to be class 10 in the issue Elektra fought him. 😱

Maybe you should read the comics you are commenting on... before... you know... you comment on them? 🙁

he doesn't read comics.. 😕

He reads respecct threads. thumbsup

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He caught Rhino's punch and stopped it when he was rated at 20 tons.
So that feat is a feat that proves Spiderman has superstrength, but elektra doing something practically identical with Sam ISN'T?

Typical. 🙄

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I was gonna bring this up but didn't want to see people start crying.
Maybe it was because you had two coins of common sense in your head at the time and it told you that grabbing someone's shirt and punching them in the face isn't exactly a great indicator of strength. 😮

ZOMG Batman just punched Grundy in the head he's like totally class 100!

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
😂

Ok thats the end of that. 😐

Or at least it might have been... if y'know... you knew when to STFU... please go read some comics.

Originally posted by Starscream M
outslugging wolverine proves nothing about his strength

Outslugging the guy with an Admantium skeleton, and a healing factor who wins knuckle dusters with Roughouse, Warpath, and Caliban proves nothing about his strength? 🤨

Everytime I think you couldn't be any more ignorant. ...

Originally posted by jinzin
And the point is skewed. Because unless she's bullseye, a ludicrous amount of strength had to be used to accomplish that feat as well.

As the feat posted of Blade would demonstrate, he's either nowhere near as skilled as Elektra, or weaker.

..But that feat really isn't a strength feat, is it? The sai doesn't weight a lot, and that's why it's more like a testament of her handspeed or explosive strength than her actual I-can-bench-alot strength?

I mean baseballers and javelin throwers aren't really strong compared to people who practise shot put.

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
..But that feat really isn't a strength feat, is it? The sai doesn't weight a lot, and that's why it's more like a testament of her handspeed or explosive strength than her actual I-can-bench-alot strength?

I mean baseballers and javelin throwers aren't really strong compared to people who practise shot put.


I wouldn't disagree with your statement, but the comparison isn't a fair one given the fact that B-balls and spears are nowhere near as heavy as a shotput and spears are designed for travelling distance.
(Even given the fact that I've seen shotput throws that heavily outstrip basketball ones.)

True the sai doesn't weigh much, but the fact that the sheer force of it's impact into the gun berrel did what it did.... you don't through a toothpick throw a lightpole without some strength on ya.

In any case it's only one example of Elektra's strength, other would also support she's vastly strong..
Or maybe that's a bad way of putting it. She can do superhuman feats based on her ability to chi manip.

Stopping sams strength, moving faster than the eye can track 10 feat underwater with no leverage, blocking machine gun fire without spinning her blades, and even deflecting/richocheting gunfire with her bare hand... She simply has superior feats to Blade in every category aside from simply being a vampire. 😬