Originally posted by chilled monkey
Nope. Elektra's feats are vastly superior.
Blade has faced opponents that could possibly beat Elektra. Also since alot of Blades feats are against vampires that makes them better than Elektras feats vs humans.
As I stated already Moon Knight and Bullseye have much better feats than Punisher but hes stalemated MK every time and beaten Bullseye twice.
Originally posted by chilled monkeytwo have been posted, one o felektra throwing a sai through a man, equalled by blade using his knives to shatter a demon to pieces, elektra sliced through a man and he stayed intact, blade did the same with a vampire attacking him. those have been the only feats presented.
Nope. Elektra's feats are vastly superior.
Originally posted by TrackzThe difference between these two feats is Elekta beat two humans, Blade beat a vampire and a demon.
two have been posted, one o felektra throwing a sai through a man, equalled by blade using his knives to shatter a demon to pieces, elektra sliced through a man and he stayed intact, blade did the same with a vampire attacking him. those have been the only feats presented.
Oh wait......humans are above vampires and demons, my bad.
Originally posted by TrackzHe staked her in the heart without a moments hesitation... she gets up tracks him down, they fight, and he said she should let him stake her.. yeah he was really holding back o
...so you believe blade stopping the fight and asking spitfire to step back...that wasn't holding back?
Originally posted by TrackzIt wasn't a similar circumstance.. she wasn't fighting Blade. 🤨
Especially when it was revealed as he was crashing down he had several stakes on him...he was able to pull out a stake and kill spitfire before she was able to react in a similar circumstance,
Originally posted by Trackzprecisely, considering the fact that he failed to. And no, Spitfire gave up her position because she was proving a point. Blade just got handled.
and yet he couldn't in this one? The fight ended with spitfire about the have her throat sliced, because spitfire gave up her position, similar to how Blade did (not that spitfire could've done anything since vampire bites have no effect on Blade).
Originally posted by TrackzHe doesn't need to if he's asking Blade for assurance.... How dense can you be?
SPiderman never stated he wasn't sure [B]
Originally posted by TrackzWhich Pete needed him to clarify a second time.... gee wonder why.
[B]Blade just threw that in to reassure him. [B]
Originally posted by Trackz
[B] SPiderman was able to recount all of the details. He had enough sense to try and get away and he attacked Blade because he was in his way. He was owned, there was nothing he could've done to prevent it, the fight barely lasted a couple of minutes spiderman jumps he's knocked into the air, before he can recover from the hit he is shot in both of his kneecaps. [B]
He was "owned" because he was a crazy, rabid vampire running on vampiric instinct and not his own.
Are you seriously trying to show that Spiderman can be so easily shot without circumstance?
cause...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Getting kicked and punched by street levels is one thing.... but being shot... it isn't something that happens to Peter. He's been shot less than a handful of times throughout his entire superhero career. And all of those were when he was a rookie.
If you're contention is that Spiderman would have performed just as miserably without being a vampire as he did when he was..... Then that just shows once again how ignorant you are about any character who doesn't happen to be Blade. It's sad.
By this argument, Blade's a better marksman than Iron Man's targeting systems, Bullseye, Punisher, and 500 hydra agents....
the sheer notion of this is so laughable it makes me want to puke just to catch some air.
Originally posted by TrackzSo then he can't be anywhere near as skilled as a high tier like Elektra.... Do you know how many skilled humans without vampire abilities have excelled in the same conditions? Somewhere between 2 and 3 dozen...
[B]BLade was written as much weaker, even on panel it states Morbius's bite made him much stronger, before this his only powers were the ability to sense the supernatural and immunity to vampire bites I believe. I'm discarding this one because it was a weaker Blade...
Originally posted by TrackzYeah, wasn't talking about the fight with Jamal... obviously.. but instead the fight that happened AFTER he'd been hit with the shovel.. the fight with Blade..
being hit by a shovel would effect performance, however spiderman initiated the fight by jumping at the man, he was hit by the shovel and then bitten before he could react.
Originally posted by Trackz
Blade has taken bullets here:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladekillinvamps2.jpg
Originally posted by Trackz
Blade being at the center of an explosion:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade/Bladeswordskills5.jpg
Originally posted by TrackzDidn't you say hellicarier?
Beautiful Parachute:
http://comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/1183/prv1183_pg6.jpg
Originally posted by Trackz
two have been posted, one o felektra throwing a sai through a man, equalled by blade using his knives to shatter a demon to pieces, elektra sliced through a man and he stayed intact, blade did the same with a vampire attacking him. those have been the only feats presented.
He sliced abart a demon with throwing daggers... how on her is that even remotely comparable to throwing a sai with enough force to rip a mans hand off and propel it through his chest? 😕
Elektra sliced apart a man and he stayed in one piece for some time after until Punisher lifted him off the ground. Blade sliced a vampire apart and he immeditatly started to slid apart.
Niether of those two feats are the equal of Elektras.
Just to answer the feat question.
Lets see Blade do this or better since Elektra backers have been accused of providing no feats.
Block automatic gunfire with ease.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Speed/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Speed_v2_03_09.jpg
Totally disarms Punisher without him even realising it while he was looking straight at her.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Skill_Punisher_27_18.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Skill_Punisher_27_19.jpg
Catches a dagger thrown at her by an assasin.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Strength/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Strength_Elektra_v2_06_12.jpg
Another even better dagger feat this against a super skrull.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=MightyAvengers16-006.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=MightyAvengers16-007.jpg
Bullet proof hand lol.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=bulletblock.jpg
This isn't even taking into account the skill gap between the two and possible use of telepathic abilities by Elektra.
Originally posted by snoopdoggI doubt it was a special round as much as it was a more powerful gun... The guys were designed by stark for supers.
Here Blade gets shot dead center in the lungs with kevlar on. Nothing happens. I'm guessing the Cape Killer was using some kind of special round to take Blade down.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladegettingshot23.jpg
Originally posted by srankmissingninso because Blade can't perform PIS feats, that should be a strike against him?
He sliced abart a demon with throwing daggers... how on her is that even remotely comparable to throwing a sai with enough force to rip a mans hand off and propel it through his chest? 😕Elektra sliced apart a man and he stayed in one piece for some time after until Punisher lifted him off the ground. Blade sliced a vampire apart and he immeditatly started to slid apart.
Niether of those two feats are the equal of Elektras.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He sliced abart a demon with throwing daggers... how on her is that even remotely comparable to throwing a sai with enough force to rip a mans hand off and propel it through his chest? 😕Elektra sliced apart a man and he stayed in one piece for some time after until Punisher lifted him off the ground. Blade sliced a vampire apart and he immeditatly started to slid apart.
Niether of those two feats are the equal of Elektras.
blade shatter a demon completley, to rubble, the is comparable to takinga mans hand off and propelling it through his body seeing as the demon is more durable than a normal person, and he was shattered to pieces
elektras victim was immobile and elektra ambushed him, , blades victim was diving at him through the air, blade sliced him up and when he landed he stayed together for a couple of seconds, the motion is what cause the vampire to fall apart, elektras victim was keeping completely still, until punisher moved him.
Originally posted by jinzin
I doubt it was a special round as much as it was a more powerful gun... The guys were designed by stark for supers.
If it was a round that did it, I still contend that it was a tranq as this would be the most logical, rational and consistent explanation.
Thats possible but it may not have been due to the fact it looked like a standard 38 caliber.
Also just because it worked doesnt mean that it was a more powerful gun. Wolverine got koed by a bullet to the head that doesnt mean the gun was more powerful.
The wound that Cap got from the CKs gun does not indicate that it was more powerful.
Originally posted by Warrior18
Just to answer the feat question.
Lets see Blade do this or better since Elektra backers have been accused of providing no feats.Block automatic gunfire with ease.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Speed/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Speed_v2_03_09.jpgTotally disarms Punisher without him even realising it while he was looking straight at her.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Skill_Punisher_27_18.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Skill_Punisher_27_19.jpgCatches a dagger thrown at her by an assasin.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Strength/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Strength_Elektra_v2_06_12.jpgAnother even better dagger feat this against a super skrull.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=MightyAvengers16-006.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=MightyAvengers16-007.jpgBullet proof hand lol.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=bulletblock.jpg
While not disarming somebody of their weapon he did manage to lift a set of keys off two cops for his handcuffs without them knowing it.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladepickinlocks.jpg
While not a machine gun but still semi-automatic he does manage to block gunfire with a chain.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladespeedNS10.jpg
Blade catches two daggers at once by one of Ogun Strong vampire hunters.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladereflexes.jpg
Originally posted by Warrior18So I take it you think Elektra wins?
Just to answer the feat question.
Lets see Blade do this or better since Elektra backers have been accused of providing no feats.Block automatic gunfire with ease.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Speed/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Speed_v2_03_09.jpgTotally disarms Punisher without him even realising it while he was looking straight at her.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Skill_Punisher_27_18.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Skill_Punisher_27_19.jpgCatches a dagger thrown at her by an assasin.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Strength/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Strength_Elektra_v2_06_12.jpgAnother even better dagger feat this against a super skrull.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=MightyAvengers16-006.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=MightyAvengers16-007.jpgBullet proof hand lol.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=bulletblock.jpgThis isn't even taking into account the skill gap between the two and possible use of telepathic abilities by Elektra.
Originally posted by Warrior18
Just to answer the feat question.
Lets see Blade do this or better since Elektra backers have been accused of providing no feats.Block automatic gunfire with ease.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Speed/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Speed_v2_03_09.jpgTotally disarms Punisher without him even realising it while he was looking straight at her.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Skill_Punisher_27_18.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Skill_Punisher_27_19.jpgCatches a dagger thrown at her by an assasin.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Strength/?action=view¤t=Elektra_Strength_Elektra_v2_06_12.jpgAnother even better dagger feat this against a super skrull.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=MightyAvengers16-006.jpg
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=MightyAvengers16-007.jpgBullet proof hand lol.
http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view¤t=bulletblock.jpg
Blocks bullets from an android easily:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeblockinNS16.jpg
Blade thinks punishers speed is laughable as well,:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladeandPunisher3.jpg
Guts a vampire before it can react:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladefast-1.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladefast2.jpg
Angles his handcuffs so the bullets will hit them:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladebreakincuffs.jpg
Senses this guy and makes it over to him and kills him before he can take a shot:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladev2-Bladesense.jpg
Knife feat against trained hunters:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladereflexes.jpg
Blade gets behind this person before they realize they haven't hit him:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladefaster.jpg
Blocks gunfire with a chain:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladespeedNS10.jpg
Originally posted by snoopdogg
While not disarming somebody of their weapon he did manage to lift a set of keys off two cops for his handcuffs without them knowing it.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladepickinlocks.jpg
While not a machine gun but still semi-automatic he does manage to block gunfire with a chain.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladespeedNS10.jpg
Blade catches two daggers at once by one of Ogun Strong vampire hunters.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladereflexes.jpg
All of Elektra's feats are better versions of those.
1. A skilled pickpocket could do this. 😉 Disarming the Punisher while he is looking straight at you without him knowing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what blade did.
2.You said it yourself fully automatic v semi automatic.Plus she does this for much longer while jumping through the air.
3.I may be wrong but Blade knew what was coming. Elektra had the Blade thrown at her out of the blue from behind. The second one was caught between her FINGERTIPS after being thrown by a skrull which most likely had the strength of the Thing.
Originally posted by Warrior18No, they were just meeting at that time. Orij even says he's never seen anybody do that before. 😉3.I may be wrong but Blade knew what was coming. Elektra had the Blade thrown at her out of the blue from behind. The second one was caught between her FINGERTIPS after being thrown by a skrull which most likely had the strength of the Thing.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Spitfire was killing super skrulls and Blade was able to hang with her.. *shrug*Spitefire is arguably more dangerous than Elektra.
ABC logic for the win I see.
Everybody has wasted skrulls. The point was the feat.Catching the blade in between her fingertips at speed.Not defeating the skrull.
Originally posted by Phantom ZonePrince Namor seems to think she's pretty dangerous.😱
Spitfire was killing super skrulls and Blade was able to hang with her.. *shrug*Spitefire is arguably more dangerous than Elektra.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Spitfiredangerous.jpg
Originally posted by jinzin
He staked her in the heart without a moments hesitation... she gets up tracks him down, they fight, and he said she should let him stake her.. yeah he was really holding back o
plenty there. 🙄It wasn't a similar circumstance.. she wasn't fighting Blade. 🤨
precisely, considering the fact that he failed to. And no, Spitfire gave up her position because she was proving a point. Blade just got handled.
He doesn't need to if he's asking Blade for assurance.... How dense can you be?
Which Pete needed him to clarify a second time.... gee wonder why.
ne he wasn't... He was able to recount that he was trying to leave the school and that he ran into Blade... If he wasn't even sure if he had attacked anyone it pretty clear that he couldn't recount "all the details".... 😐
He was "owned" because he was a crazy, rabid vampire running on vampiric instinct and not his own.
Are you seriously trying to show that Spiderman can be so easily shot without circumstance?
cause...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Getting kicked and punched by street levels is one thing.... but being shot... it isn't something that happens to Peter. He's been shot less than a handful of times throughout his entire superhero career. And all of those were when he was a rookie.
If you're contention is that Spiderman would have performed just as miserably without being a vampire as he did when he was..... Then that just shows once again how ignorant you are about any character who doesn't happen to be Blade. It's sad.
By this argument, Blade's a better marksman than Iron Man's targeting systems, Bullseye, Punisher, and 500 hydra agents....
the sheer notion of this is so laughable it makes me want to puke just to catch some air.
So then he can't be anywhere near as skilled as a high tier like Elektra.... Do you know how many skilled humans without vampire abilities have excelled in the same conditions? Somewhere between 2 and 3 dozen...
Blade being "weaker" doesn't mean much, and it means even less when you consider that Guggenhiem retconned that the bite did anything to him.Yeah, wasn't talking about the fight with Jamal... obviously.. but instead the fight that happened AFTER he'd been hit with the shovel.. the fight with Blade..
So then by your own logic, he was hit with the shovel, then fought Blade, and his perfomance was affected regardless of the vampirism... You realise you just shot down your own pathetic example? Nice one. 😉Yeah, that doesn't prove your point.
Blade takes two bullets, which bleed for nearly the duration of the comic, and though he does pull of some nice feats thereafter, it is after several pages go by in the book.
This however means nothing compared to being shot center mass.
It's comparible to Iron Fist dodging bullets and kicking ass with a broken leg, impressive, but in no way related to taking a shot to the sternum to no effect.An "explosion" which barely burned Varnea who was also at the center, and didn't even remotely damage several others in the immediate (5 foot) vecinity.... Fail again.
Didn't you say hellicarier?
And it wasn't that high off the ground anyways... Blade's jumped that high.. It in no way proves anything about taking round center mass to no effetc... EPIC FAIL!
even spitfire admits at the end of the arc that blade could kill her if she went crazy...as for the instance when they stopped fighting...that was it they had stopped fighting, she was ready to make amends but what blade said to her pissed her off.
he wasn't asking blade for assurance, he was already pretty sure of what happened, Blade was just making it positive for him as he recounted every detail of the story for him and recalled most of what was said
if spiderman has been hit by plenty of people, (wolverine for example) I'm pretty sure wolverine doesn't strike as fast as a bullet, the close proximity between him and blade, coupled with blades accuracy made it apparent Blade beat spiderman straight up.
Blade retconned it because he hadn't read any blade comics and assumed that no writer had ever confirmed that morbius's bite had effected him...he was wrong, regardless, while itis fact now, it wasn't fact then.
the explosion wasn't meant to kill varnae, if you cant see the force of the explosion blew out the widows and tore a postbox from the sidewalk and threw it into the street, the explosion was powerful.
it proves how durable he is as a normal person wouldve broken bones, that and the fact blade has taken powerful gunshots to the chest before on kevlar armor and been fine (the same gun blew a whole through a vampire and dropped it)
