You said that twice before here. We get your point, so don't make a chain of it or you'll just be wasting more space than you already have by mentioning disrespect in a respect thread. That said, whatever qualms you have don't change the fact that Link in TP is still the most expressive, personable, and character/plot-involved Link the series has had yet, and has still done more than other Links with less. As far as plot is concerned, he's the first Link that can actually be called a character and not an avatar.
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
You said that twice before here. We get your point, so don't make a chain of it or you'll just be wasting more space than you already have by mentioning disrespect in a respect thread. That said, whatever qualms you have don't change the fact that Link in TP is still the most expressive, personable, and character/plot-involved Link the series has had yet, and has still done more than other Links with less. As far as plot is concerned, he's the first Link that can actually be called a character and not an avatar.
Eh, WW Link and Oot/MM Link were both given some decent depth, they count too =P
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
You said that twice before here. We get your point, so don't make a chain of it or you'll just be wasting more space than you already have by mentioning disrespect in a respect thread. That said, whatever qualms you have don't change the fact that Link in TP is still the most expressive, personable, and character/plot-involved Link the series has had yet, and has still done more than other Links with less. As far as plot is concerned, he's the first Link that can actually be called a character and not an avatar.
Ridiculous, he might have the most reactions, but he is defiantly not the most expressive.
Eh, WW Link and Oot/MM Link were both given some decent depth, they count too =P
To a point, yes. MM is where it really began in my opinion, and only grew with each subsequent 3D Zelda, which is good in my opinon.
Ridiculous, he might have the most reactions, but he is defiantly not the most expressive.
I'm sorry but that is just completely groundless blasphemy. He's the ONLY one to have EVER had enough expressiveness in spite of his lack of dialogue to actually justify him as a character as evolved from the "link between the player and the game" as he is in comparison to every Link before him, which is by a huge margin frankly. That's not including the fact that he also had the most established history with the most characters from the start. With TP Link, we had a character who was actually personable. With everyone before him, we had a character that had to be fillied in mostly on the player's own accord.
BECUZ IT'S RELATED.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Alright, evidence of the sword's rediculous PIS abilities.The sword's earliest confirmed appearance is in aLttP. Guess what, Ganon has the *entire* triforce to himself in this title. The sword here uses art VERY similiar to the magic sword in Zelda II's info booklet which came with the game cart, suggesting the art atleast, if not the idea, of the sword had been around for some time.
In it's earliest incarnation the Master sword could could destroy and repel evil, including reflecting back magical attacks from Ganon and Aghanim, as well as cut through magical barriers and the like. It had not yet become the fully formed PIS device it was to become, but the basic building blocks were already there. Firstly, because Link does not have a piece of the triforce, and the sword is hailed all through the game in various quotes as the only thing that can save Hyrule.
and it did, in a maddeningly PIS piece of PIS, Link won, but what explains this? How did Link overcome a fully powered up Ganon with the entire triforce? With the mastersword! And so it began..
The next time we see this magical plot blasting blade we've made the jump to OoT and some.. wierd thigns happen. One of the first events in the game as we're introduced to Gerudo form Ganondorf, who was in a nightmare Link had, is that he, with no piece of the triforce, cast a death curse on the Deku tree, a powerful gaurdian of the forest and "entrance to our world". [suggesting that the kokiri forest is a magical place indeed.] Now, Link quickly becomes a pain worthy of Ganon's note, collecting the stones Ganon wanted for himsef, but Ganon allows this to go on, findign a way to turn it to his advantage. If Link opens the door to the scared realm for him, why bother working himself? /mistake. He threw away his victory by easily prepubescent kill rigth there. THAT is the PIS that lost him every Zelda game ever as OoT is the first in the series that Ganon is in. [chronologicly]. Link goes on to get the master sword and the triforce is trisected.
Now Link comes back, and Ganon wants Link's piece of the triforce. At the end of the Forest Temple, Ganon banishes the boss to the gap between dimensions without even being on screen! hax. Link stands a few feet away like "lul,sucker" <--Why not him too?
Hell, why not a death curse?
LATER: Link has freed the sages and Zelda has revealed herself in the temple of time, giving Link the ligth arrows.. Then Ganon is like "*****, I'm not even on screen, but gimmeh your triangle" and traps Zelda in a magic diamond shaped pink bubble. Why not Link? He'd have them both! Full triforce, instant win. Cause Link's holding the damnable sword, imo. It was the only thing that could, Zelda had a piece of the triforce, lotta good that did her, and just like in aLttP, Link's plot device sword keeps him from gettign totally owned by Ganon.
Then, it gets better, Link runs into Ganon's castle, fights his way to the top of the centre tower, and faces Ganon.. who immediately tries to TK Link. He uses "dark magic" to blast Link, but Link simply braces himself, and is fine, nothing happens. Navi however, can't stand it, she's driven away... Why not Link? Why can he stand up to it? Master sword in his hand, he goes to work.
Here, the mastersword does what it did in aLttP, it reflects Ganon's magical attacks with a touch, and proves to be capable of actually harming the evil King[who plays a mean organ, I might add.]. Post fight, Ganon coughs up blood and admits he lost. [in my version it's red, not green, v1.0 gold cart ftw] then he starts yelling and TK'S THE CASTLE DOWN ONTOP OF HIMSELF. Waitwut? Why not just TK Link? Wierd. Hell, that death cuirse shit he used on the deku tree might have been cool, too.
Anyone else see what I see?
In TP, the sword reappears in it's most recent incarnation, except now we're granted a glimpse of what can happen if Link does not have the sword.. o: And it's not fair.
Zant, with only a fraction of Ganon's power TK's Link and effortlessly defeats him, Midna, and a light spirit without even moving. Then transforms Link into a wolf, permanently. Or something..
Link is forced to seek out the mastersword, which breaks the curse on Link before he even touches it. [read, aura! Link doesn't even need to touch it.]
when Link reaches the end of the game, and fights Ganon.. why doesn't he do this? It's PIS, but the PIS obviously has a swource. (badpunisbad.)
I have more n00z. Because the old numbers for the pillar Link threw mathed it as a cylinder rather than as a prism, I remathed it, VERY thoroughly.
My official number I'm sticking with according to an intensive reworking of the numbers for the pillar thrown in OoT is 1384.994 tons, if Link is six feet all. This was worked out to the pixel. 😐 This would be the closest bet to how much the stone actually weighed.... But for purposes of being conservative and low-balling, I mathed it thrice.
For the realistic number, I measured the stone to the PIXEL in a screenshot using Link as a measuring tool, and assumed he's 6' tall. The pillar came out 18.9 [19 for simplicity's sake.] feet in diameter from opposite corners, and because I couldn't get the entire stone in the picture, I undercut the height and made it 60 feet [down rounded to the nearest tenth. Once I had the volume, I mathed it as black granite.
My official "this is the lightest it can be so this is the number I use" weight for the stone is; 1160.858 tons. This is the same formula using a MUCH smaller number for the material variable, I knocked 35 lbs ish off of every cubic foot of the stone.
My official "Fine. I'll go lower, and cut the ends off... -.- Whiner." number is; 1044.772 tons. I cut off three feet from each end, and mathed with the smaller number for this one. If someone still will not accept this number, they're probably not worth debating with because by this point I've handed them 340 tons off of the realistic number.
My "OMG I'm a fanboy!! =D" number is; 1500. Because I like big round numbers. I'll probably never use this one.
Furthermore, I can end the whip argument earlier with a video, you CAN redirect and crack an already extended whip any direction you want, so the Majora fight is an EXCELLENT feat for reaction time.
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YouTube video If a human can do it, by extension a superhuman majora with forty foot prehensile super whips can freakin' do it, and better. D:<!
Thus Link's reflexes are established, and his strength numbers are more polished than before.
Not really, a whip can be cracked at any timr, and Link could not get out of range, and it's not a rope. As soon as the whip is cracked, the tip breaks the sound barrier, this is the attack, not the extension. 😐 This is what proves Link's reflexes, as evidenced by the video above, you can't dodge-preemptively if you're still in range.
The current world record for most whip cracks in a single minute is 420.