Juggernaut vs adamantium wall (PRIMARY adamantium!)

Started by SoulDevourer11 pages

Originally posted by wolverex84
Superhuman Durability: Ultron's outer shell is usually composed of Adamantium, rendering it almost totally impervious to damage; however, his internal mechanisms are generally less durable and more easily damaged. His skin composition is about(.5 inches thick ), neck, knee, ankle, elbow, shoulder, wrist, and finger joints are finely tessellated titanium alloy to permit flexing. He is able to withstand concussive blasts and heat of a 100 megaton atomic bomb.
starnge they dont have dat last part in the official bio 🤨

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
starnge they dont have dat last part in the official bio 🤨

its from marveldatabase...

Originally posted by wolverex84
its from marveldatabase...
...yeah thats where I checked

btw how hot is "heat of 100 megaton bomb" is it like core of the sun or something

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
...yeah that's where I checked

btw how hot is "heat of 100 megaton bomb" is it like core of the sun or something

it is almost near the core of the sun.. the core of the sun is about 15 * 10^6 K......heat of Nagasaki (22 kiloton) bomb is about ..10^6 K....

now a 100 megaton bomb is many times more powerful than 22kilotone bomb... which the shock wave alone is enough to break a 12inch thick concrete...15psi. (1/2 an inch thick of adamantium can survive a direct hit from a 100megatone bomb.!!!, superman's force field can take 40megatone without any damage, but he will be unconscious, that's just crazy...

Originally posted by wolverex84
it is almost near the core of the sun.. the core of the sun is about 15 * 10^6 K......heat of Nagasaki (22 kiloton) bomb is about ..10^6 K....
yeah guess that fits (on panel they show adamantium can survive core of the sun)

did they ever show how adamantium fare inside core of a blue/white star or something? ^^

now a 100 megaton bomb is many times more powerful than 22kilotone bomb... which the shock wave alone is enough to break a 12inch thick concrete...15psi. (1/2 an inch thick of adamantium can survive a direct hit from a 100megatone bomb.!!!, superman's force field can take 40megatone without any damage, but he will be unconscious, that's just crazy...
carefull they dont say if it survive the blast of the bomb, only the heat
it says "He is able to withstand concussive blasts" (plural so their not refering to the bomb shockwave) "and heat of a 100 megaton atomic bomb"
so we dont know how 0.5 inch thick of the stuff will fare if the bomb hit it direcly

Hulk made crack in Ultron armor and he didnt even look that pissed so i doubt his punch had force of 100 megaton bomb lol

so u think if its a cube then Jug will be stopped?
even if 0.5 inch adamantium can resist a nuke blast we dunno how many megatonne is worth Jug when he runs (but it gotta be very strong if they call him "unstopable". gotta be more then Hulk punch anyway) so maybe Jug can ram it a few times till the wall breaks

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
yeah guess that fits (on panel they show adamantium can survive core of the sun)

did they ever show how adamantium fare inside core of a blue/white star or something? ^^

carefull they dont say if it survive the blast of the bomb, only the heat
it says "He is able to withstand concussive blast[b]s
" (plural so their not refering to the bomb shockwave) "and heat of a 100 megaton atomic bomb"
so we dont know how 0.5 inch thick of the stuff will fare if the bomb hit it direcly

Hulk made crack in Ultron armor and he didnt even look that pissed so i doubt his punch had force of 100 megaton bomb lol[/B]

he doesn't have to look too pissed to mash a .5 inch adamantium.. it was just the way he was drawn...lol

i don't think hulk should be able to dent it.. its bs.. if he dented ultron.. then he should have dented wolverine's skull along time ago.

I don't know about you, but for adamantium to survive the heat of a 100megatone bomb.. it has to be able to survive the blast because there is no explosion without the heat and blast.
look at it this way, if you can take 100 concusive blast and the heat of a 100megatone atomic bomb without any damage, then it means you simply can.. it means you can take the direct force if you can take the heat of 100megaton bomb.. they didn't need to specify it because adamantium is nearly indestructible.. a sufficient amount of adamantium can survive multiple hits from a nuclear weapon.
1/2 an inch is sufficient enough cause adamantium is just too expensive and rear to create.. ultron is indestructable.. wolverine's skeleton is indestructible, why did u think it survived Nitro's explosion?

i don't think though that adamantium can survive the violent exposions in stars, that kind of force are skyfather and beyonder lever beings..those are the forces of bigbang theory.

Originally posted by wolverex84
he doesn't have to look too pissed to mash a .5 inch adamantium.. it was just the way he was drawn...lol

i don't think hulk should be able to dent it.. its bs.. if he dented ultron.. then he should have dented wolverine's skull along time ago.

actually it makes sense (adamantium aint mystical) Hulk is super strong and he wuz really trying to damage Ultron. and it's canon anyway, so there ^^
Thor also cause small damage to primary adamantium using mussle only (tho he used his hammer)

I don't know about you, but for adamantium to survive the heat of a 100megatone bomb.. it has to be able to survive the blast because there is no explosion without the heat and blast.
look at it this way, if you can take 100 concusive blast and the heat of a 100megatone atomic bomb without any damage, then it means you simply can.. it means you can take the direct force if you can take the heat of 100megaton bomb.. they didn't need to specify it because adamantium is nearly indestructible.. a sufficient amount of adamantium can survive multiple hits from a nuclear weapon.
1/2 an inch is sufficient enough cause adamantium is just too expensive and rear to create.. ultron is indestructable.. wolverine's skeleton is indestructible, why did u think it survived Nitro's explosion?
yeah but Nitro aint exacly the same force as 100MT (when he explode hes only worth 100lbs of TNT of something like that)

i don't think though that adamantium can survive the violent exposions in stars, that kind of force are skyfather and beyonder lever beings..those are the forces of bigbang theory.
yeah we know adamantium can resist core of yellow suns and nova temps (nova temp roughly = yellow sun core temps right?) but we dunno about really hot stars
on other hand Galactus said Surfers silver skin can survive the core temps of even "hottest stars" (so that include not just yelow but blue/white stars too. damm thats 1337 lol) as well as supernova but this is Galactus invention and hes super advanced so thats not really surprise

[QUOTE=11631767]Originally posted by SoulDevourer
[B]yeah but Nitro aint exactly the same force as 100MT (when he explode hes only worth 100lbs of TNT of something like that)

he was taking the mutant growth hormones to amplify his power exponentially.

silver surfer's skin is design to withstand the harsh enviroment in space.. his intermolecular forces of attraction holding is personna together is so great that there is almost no known force that can break it.. it doesn't mean it is stronger, harger than adamantium, it mean it is tougher or more resistant to temperature and impact forces..

hardness doesn't mean something is tough... or yet strong.. you can he hard but as brittle as a crystal.. just like diamond.. silver surfer has extremely tough/semihard and flexible silvery skin.. adamantium is extremely stiff/hard/dense/tensile strengh and most of all a metal.. huge differnce..that is why like all metals, adamantium is affected by temperatures/extreme force/magnetic waves.

what about his board? it looks like its made of the same stuff as surfer skin yet its rigid and (suppose to be) undestructible accord to what Galactus said

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
what about his board? it looks like its made of the same stuff as surfer skin yet its rigid and (suppose to be) undestructible accord to what Galactus said

yes his board is made up of the same composition of his skin.. his board can siffen or harden yet again it can relax to become flexible just like his skin, his skin can do the same vice versa.. even if his board gets damaged.. surfer can fix it.. no thanks to his cosmic molecular manipulation.. so in a way, it is indestructible.

guess thats why they allmost never show caps shield get damage then (he cant fix it back as easy as surfer can fix his board)

personal question, why are you so determined to see to it that adamantium is destroyed?..lol...

yes it can be destroy, it is not indestructible. it is near indestructible.. nothing is indestructible...everything; force, strength, heat, weight, density, mass, hardness, toughness etc has a limit. its just that adamantium's limit is extremely far above any limit that manmade weapons or alien weapons can reach.

when i mean everything.. i mean characters with certain characteristics like strength, density manipulation, heat, force generation, invulnerability etc.. not necessarily the measurements themselves.

Originally posted by wolverex84
personal question, why are you so determined to see to it that adamantium is destroyed?..lol...

yes it can be destroy, it is not indestructible. it is near indestructible.. nothing is indestructible...everything; force, strength, heat, weight, density, mass, hardness, toughness etc has a limit. its just that adamantium's limit is extremely far above any limit that manmade weapons or alien weapons can reach.

we get to see alien weapons that destroy Surfers "indestructible" board (like Cables blast or Firestorm cosmic fire) so those things will prolly work on caps shield or ultron armor too

hey I can ask why u so determined that ole Juggy get stopped? ^_^

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
we get to see alien weapons that destroy Surfers "indestructible" board (like Cables blast or Firestorm cosmic fire) so maybe those things can work on caps shield or ultron amor too

hey I can ask why u so determined that ole Juggy get stopped? ^_^

I am not determined to see juggernaut stopped, only to be stopped by a 12inch thick wall made from pure true adamantium, i see to it that adamantium maintains its reputation through logical sense of the fact other than captain America's shield, it is the most impenetrable/hardest/strongest material in comic universe.

while juggernaut has the reputation of an unstoppable force, he doesn't have that reputation over a 12inch thick of true adamantium... adamantium ignores anything that is not adamantium..even the temperature that is used to harden it once cooled, its molecular structure is too or extremely stable that only few galactic forces can alter its structure.

noway.. those things won't work on caps shield because it has the metallic paint of the American flag on it( stars n stripes)..lol...it is more than a sheild, it repersents freedom..lol.. it is the hardest, strongest, force absorbing, near impenetrable, indestructible material known to comic universe, gotta give it justice or else it will lose its purpose. You know how Americans feel when someone destroys our flag..lol

What about an Uru wall?

Originally posted by wolverex84
I am not determined to see juggernaut stopped, only to be stopped by a 12inch thick wall made from pure true adamantium, i see to it that adamantium maintains its reputation through logical sense of the fact other than captain America's shield, it is the most impenetrable/hardest/strongest material in comic universe.

while juggernaut has the reputation of an unstoppable force, he doesn't have that reputation over a 12inch thick of true adamantium... adamantium ignores anything that is not adamantium..even the temperature that is used to harden it once cooled, its molecular structure is too or extremely stable that only few galactic forces can alter its structure.

then how much of it will he "enter"?

what if its only 1 inch wall then he should be able to ram thru it

noway.. those things won't work on caps shield because it has the metallic paint of the American flag on it( stars n stripes)..lol...it is more than a sheild, it repersents freedom..lol.. it is the hardest, strongest, force absorbing, near impenetrable, indestructible material known to comic universe, gotta give it justice or else it will lose its purpose. You know how Americans feel when someone destroys our flag..lol
ah yes of cos my bad
its an Ideal and nothing whatsover can destroy an Ideal eh? 😄

Originally posted by DeathKap
What about an Uru wall?
I dunno how plain uru compare to primary adamantium

but enchanted uru is harder so it could stop him

Originally posted by wolverex84
I am not determined to see juggernaut stopped, only to be stopped by a 12inch thick wall made from pure true adamantium, i see to it that adamantium maintains its reputation through logical sense of the fact other than captain America's shield, it is the most impenetrable/hardest/strongest material in comic universe.

while juggernaut has the reputation of an unstoppable force, he doesn't have that reputation over a 12inch thick of true adamantium... adamantium ignores anything that is not adamantium..even the temperature that is used to harden it once cooled, its molecular structure is too or extremely stable that only few galactic forces can alter its structure.

noway.. those things won't work on caps shield because it has the metallic paint of the American flag on it( stars n stripes)..lol...it is more than a sheild, it repersents freedom..lol.. it is the hardest, strongest, force absorbing, near impenetrable, indestructible material known to comic universe, gotta give it justice or else it will lose its purpose. You know how Americans feel when someone destroys our flag..lol

What is stopping Cain from pushing the wall back?