Originally posted by Wei Phoenixnope not an option thats only a way of circumventin the question
What is stopping Cain from pushing the wall back?
we can say Cain is running in a closed adamantium tunnel, or adamantium cube or somethin like that. anything where he cant push the wall without breaking something made of adamantium
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
then how much of it will he "enter"?what if its only 1 inch wall then he should be able to ram thru it
ah yes of cos my bad
its an Ideal and nothing whatsover can destroy an Ideal eh? 😄
yes i agree, he will be able to ram through it but he will do it alot before he can to through it...it is not that thick.. so juggernaut can ram through it.
not an ideal.. i am given you the reason.. yes a political idea behind the strongest material in comics, remember the reason they invented the shield in the first place? it was to build supertanks or weapons for the US army to fight hitler's men in WWII, so yeah, that idea is part of it..in a way...lol
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Well I was trying to be generous to the adamantium, but after all we've seen Cain run through, nothing man-made has ever stoped him. Thor's GB slowed him down or pushed him back which is magical in nature and War Hulk did it to him due to Celestial Tech. Adamantium isn't magical or celestial.
dude, it doesn't have to be magical or celestial to be able to withstand other forces like juggernaut..it is science at its best. the science vs magic situation.. most of the time, magic wins, but some rear occassions science also wins.. in this case a 12inche thick cube of adamantium wins.. it might not stop him from moveing forward, the adamantium cube will only move in the direction of juggernaut.. juggernuat is not running through that wall, i just don't see that happening.
Originally posted by wolverex84
dude, it doesn't have to be magical or celestial to be able to withstand other forces like juggernaut..it is science at its best. the science vs magic situation.. most of the time, magic wins, but some rear occassions science also wins.. in this case a 12inche thick cube of adamantium wins.. it might not stop him from moveing forward, the adamantium cube will only move in the direction of juggernaut.. juggernuat is not running through that wall, i just don't see that happening.
If it doesn't stop him from moving forward then it doesn't stop him hence Cain wins.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If it doesn't stop him from moving forward then it doesn't stop him hence Cain wins.
He wins in his own way.. unstoppable.. but adamantium also wins in its own way.. inpernetrable because he can't run through it 12inches ir just too thick...that is the point SoulDevourer is trying to make is that he will run through it.. he can't aleast not that thick.
Originally posted by wolverex84
He wins in his own way.. unstoppable.. but adamantium also wins in its own way..
Originally posted by wolverex84uh if hes inside the cube then thats not possible (u need outside force to move the cube)
the adamantium cube will only move in the direction of juggernaut..
the frame o reference IS the cube and hes running inside the cube so its either 1) jug unstoppable and the wall breaks or 2) wall resists and jug is stopped (and gets a big headache)
u cant have both not in THIS scenario 😄
Originally posted by wolverex84if its a cube then its long/wide enuf to give Jug all the space he wants
by the way, how long or wide is the cube?
big as a borg cube hehe
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
uh if hes inside the cube then thats not possible (u need outside force to move the cube)the frame o reference IS the cube and hes running inside the cube so its either 1) jug unstoppable and the wall breaks or 2) wall resists and jug is stopped (and gets a big headache)
u cant have both not in THIS scenario 😄if its a cube then its long/wide enuf to give Jug all the space he wants
big as a borg cube hehe
damn, i knew you were going to say that..lol i was hoping you will say it was like 6feetlong..lol
i think that senerio is possible 😄 .. if he has enough space.. he runs with his force... it will push the adamantium cube to move forward with him still inside it.
Originally posted by wolverex84uh no like said thats impossible cos hes INSIDE the cube so he cant move it (it has to be an outside force)
it will push the adamantium cube to move forward with him still inside it.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
uh no like said thats impossible cos hes INSIDE the cube so he cant move it (it has to be an outside force)
its either hes stopped (in the cube frame of refrence) or he continue (and breaks wall)
he cant move teh cube itself cos that violates conservation of momentum or something
in that case, he is stopped against a 12inch thick adamantium....