Originally posted by Starscream M
well, not many, apparently...
Lulz
Originally posted by Starscream M
no, I agree Pitt would lose to Mauvais...I just think that K-M doesn't read many Pitt comics though he acts as if he is some big expert
....and you know this how again? am I not refered to as one of the most knowledgeable members on the board and especially with obscure characters? such as Pitt, who even is a Canadian creation by the way. 😬
Seriously how many times have you been caught without reading the stories and comics in question? You should not even try to attack anyone's credibility, when you have none yourself 😬
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You mean like you do in all the time?If there's one thing that's certain, it's that KM reads the comics he debates. To have someone like you question whether or not he reads comics is just too much. I think you should apologize to KM, before we make a big deal out of this.
Ding! but that's Starscream for you, he's "edgy"
Originally posted by Starscream M
well another thing that's certain is that K-M loves to wank alpha flight...notice how many times he brought up alpha flight members in this thread
Lulz again, the versions of Wendigo that were mentiond directly fought Alpha Flight, and didn't really fight other people unless we talk about different hosts. So thus that is the reason Alpha Flight was brought up *claps* Only people who fought Mauvais/Wendigo were Alpha Flight...try to keep up.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
As being a major Pitt fan I have to chime in here.As for Pitt being one of the top rated in durability I would disagree, while he is tough I have seen plenty take more damage like the Hulk, I've seen him reduced to just a skeleton and regenerate from that. Pitt maybe able to duplicate this but that would be speculation.
Urgal can't really be compared to others because he has only one appearance and nothing to really back up his claims or feats. Any comparison that you can have would be speculation on his feats and powers.
Pitt is still a brick but he has other skills to back up his brute strength that others do not but Pitt still relies on his strength to defeat his foes.
I do hate when people call Pitt a "Hulk Knock-off", he has many differences than Hulk and that would be saying that any "brick" character is a knock-off of Hulk from the Thing to Strong Guy and on since Hulk was the first.
Hulk wasn't the 1st -The Thing came before him.
Whoa... since when has Dr. Strange become a god? he has been beaten by far less, so big deal he was scared by Mauvais. Does this mean that he can't be defeated in battle? Wendigo's have had their flesh pierced in the past, so this gross myth of them being indestructible is garbage, the Juggernaut is indestructible not Wendigo's.
How well would Alpha Flight do against a Superman with Thors mystical hammer?
How well would Mauvais do against a Superman with Thor's mystical hammer?
What will Mauvais do to stop Pitt when a being of greater power than Mauvais could not. Yes Mauvais held some indian deities at bay, but this is not to say that if he faced them head on that he could challenge their power, he only used barriers to stop them from crossing into his dimension. Urgrul Thul has devoured such deities, there is a huge difference in power HUGE.
The only thing that Mauvais has going for him is his hype, he was able to bat Alpha Flight around? What do you think Supreme would do to Alpha Flight? hell the Collective beat them in what "snicker" a couple seconds? 😂 This is what makes Mauvais out to be such a power to be reckoned with??? Sentry was stalemating the Collective.. yep little old Sentry who has been called a weakling numerous times on this board.
When the Hulk fought Wendigo he was only a fraction of what he has become these days, I mean back then it was a challenge for him to break out of some chains that held him while Wendigo attempted to dump a crane on him... today he lifts continents. Professor Hulk himself says how much more powerful he is compared to back in the day, this is mentioned in Incredible Hulk issue 389 vol. 2... check it out for yourself. The character in issue 389 beat the Savage Hulk with ease around the time that the Hulk was stalemating Wendigo... what does this tell us? Professor Hulk pulls this guy apart with ease in issue 389.
Originally posted by Stoic
Whoa... since when has Dr. Strange become a god? he has been beaten by far less, so big deal he was scared by Mauvais. Does this mean that he can't be defeated in battle? Wendigo's have had their flesh pierced in the past, so this gross myth of them being indestructible is garbage, the Juggernaut is indestructible not Wendigo's.How well would Alpha Flight do against a Superman with Thors mystical hammer?
How well would Mauvais do against a Superman with Thor's mystical hammer?
What will Mauvais do to stop Pitt when a being of greater power than Mauvais could not. Yes Mauvais held some indian deities at bay, but this is not to say that if he faced them head on that he could challenge their power, he only used barriers to stop them from crossing into his dimension. Urgrul Thul has devoured such deities, there is a huge difference in power HUGE.
The only thing that Mauvais has going for him is his hype, he was able to bat Alpha Flight around? What do you think Supreme would do to Alpha Flight hell the Collective beat them in what "snicker" a couple seconds? 😂 This is what makes Mauvais out to be such a power to be reckoned with???
When the Hulk fought Wendigo he was only a fraction of what he has become these days, I mean back then it was a challenge for him to break out of some chains that held him while Wendigo attempted to dump a crane on him... today he lift continents. Professor Hulk himself says how much more powerful he is compared to back in they day this is mentioned in Incredible Hulk issue 389 vol. 2... check it out for yourself.
Lulz, Dr.Strange actually has feats to back up his power same with Mauvais. Also no Wendigo's are not indestructable, no one made that claim at all. You on the other hand did for Pitt, which isn't true.
Quite well as they have fought stronger on multiple occasions.
Sans speedblitz, incredibly well as magic is bad for Superman
Such deities? prove it! 😬 Seriously what are some of his feats, even one of the largest Pitt fans on the board disagrees with you 😬
Only hype? Errr? Her fought the Ancient One, you know who that is? Even the Gods of the Artic working with the Ancient One had to imprison him as he was to dangerous. The Collective beat them off-panel and as noted when their guard was down. Also as noted and shown in flashbacks more went on with the fight then we know. it most definetly wasn't seconds.
That's nice, except the fact for many years Wendigo has fought against the Hulk when he has gone through his many changes and various growths and not once could he put down Wendigo on his own power. So your theory really doesn't work, unless they merely fought once...which they didn't
EDIT: I'm done, no real point to continue
Originally posted by Stoic
Whoa... since when has Dr. Strange become a god? he has been beaten by far less, so big deal he was scared by Mauvais. Does this mean that he can't be defeated in battle? Wendigo's have had their flesh pierced in the past, so this gross myth of them being indestructible is garbage, the Juggernaut is indestructible not Wendigo's.How well would Alpha Flight do against a Superman with Thors mystical hammer?
How well would Mauvais do against a Superman with Thor's mystical hammer?
What will Mauvais do to stop Pitt when a being of greater power than Mauvais could not. Yes Mauvais held some indian deities at bay, but this is not to say that if he faced them head on that he could challenge their power, he only used barriers to stop them from crossing into his dimension. Urgrul Thul has devoured such deities, there is a huge difference in power HUGE.
The only thing that Mauvais has going for him is his hype, he was able to bat Alpha Flight around? What do you think Supreme would do to Alpha Flight? hell the Collective beat them in what "snicker" a couple seconds? 😂 This is what makes Mauvais out to be such a power to be reckoned with??? Sentry was stalemating the Collective.. yep little old Sentry who has been called a weakling numerous times on this board.
When the Hulk fought Wendigo he was only a fraction of what he has become these days, I mean back then it was a challenge for him to break out of some chains that held him while Wendigo attempted to dump a crane on him... today he lifts continents. Professor Hulk himself says how much more powerful he is compared to back in they day this is mentioned in Incredible Hulk issue 389 vol. 2... check it out for yourself.
Dude you gone use the superman with thor's hammer in every theard??? I mean he lost to PITT he had a stalemate agains gladiator (even iff he was 2 time's stronger he didn't beat gladiator).
So you gone use abc logics??? didn't some young X-men with the name Cannonball beat the gladiator????
Guess he must be one of the strongest on the planet?
Originally posted by -K-M-
Lulz, Dr.Strange actually has feats to back up his power same with Mauvais. Also no Wendigo's are not indestructable, no one made that claim at all. You on the other hand did for Pitt, which isn't true.Quite well as they have fought stronger on multiple occasions.
Sans speedblitz, incredibly well as magic is bad for Superman
Such deities? prove it! 😬 Seriously what are some of his feats, even one of the largest Pitt fans on the board disagrees with you 😬
Only hype? Errr? Her fought the Ancient One, you know who that is? Even the Gods of the Artic working with the Ancient One had to imprison him as he was to dangerous. The Collective beat them off-panel and as noted when their guard was down. Also as noted and shown in flashbacks more went on with the fight then we know. it most definetly wasn't seconds.
That's nice, except the fact for many years Wendigo has fought against the Hulk when he has gone through his many changes and various growths and not once could he put down Wendigo on his own power. So your theory really doesn't work, unless they merely fought once...which they didn't
EDIT: I'm done, no real point to continue
Errr! Supreme with the hammer had magical defenses, The Hulk has beaten Dr. Strange before, The female Adam Warlock has no place in this thread, and has been subdued by Quasar who was nearly killed by Count Nefaria 2, and eaten by Anni.
On panel it is stated that Urgrul Thul is a God devourer. Have you ever even read Pitt? you can be honest, because if you did you would have noticed that Odin was on the run from Thul. or someone who looked an awful lot like old one eye.
You never answer any questions KM you just put up some front to add hype to your debate, I put forth issue numbers, and on panel facts that pertain to the characters in questions.
Let's try this again.
1. How will Mauvais put Pitt down if Urgrul Thul could not? Thul is greater than Mauvais when we consider that his very being was saturated with billions of deities iirc how please explain this?
2. Sentry defeated a character that beat Alpha Flight in seconds the Collective... I suppose you will bring up some weak excuse... such as they were not prepared... BS they were prepared, they were sitting in front of him, it wasn't as if he bum rushed them, they went to him. Sentry did pretty well against that guy... Alpha Flight are simply not as powerful as you try to make them out to be, I'd be suprised if they could take the team of X-Men that WWHulk stomped with ease.
3. Supreme with Thors hammer had mystical protection, and was greater in power with the hammer than without, he clearly states it after claiming it as a battle trophy, he would absolutely wreck Alpha Flight. Guess who kicked his head in?
How is Mauvais going to take Pitt down if he has yet to be taken down by powers as great as Mauvais to greater than his? I can settle for an eternal stalemate, but this crap about Mauvais walking over someone because of how well he did against Alpha Flight is a crock of shyt. Snowbird in her Wendigo form was doing fine against him until he pulled the cheapness.... heres some news for you Pitt's powers can't be turned off by some cheap magic tricks.
Originally posted by Brutacus
Dude you gone use the superman with thor's hammer in every theard??? I mean he lost to PITT he had a stalemate agains gladiator (even iff he was 2 time's stronger he didn't beat gladiator).So you gone use abc logics??? didn't some young X-men with the name Cannonball beat the gladiator????
Guess he must be one of the strongest on the planet?
Cannonball did not beat Gladiator, he used Gladiators power against him, and Gladiator was sent crashing to the earth, only to rise up a couple seconds later.... Cannonballs power is nothing to laugh at either when he uses it the right way.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Can someone please provide me with the scans of these deities that Ur-what's his face devoured, and their power level?
No one will be able to furnish you with these scan as it was only written when the author of the book was explaining what type of power Thul was. The character that looked like Odin explained that he had to remain in hiding or he too would be devoured. Thul said that he had killed Gods and raped angels..... this is proven later in the book as bilions of souls escaped from his body, and were absorbed into Pitts.
All the same with all of his power he was not able to put Pitt down with one blast which is a hell of a feat in itself. Thul was a world devourer, and proved to be more powerful than Mauvais.
The Collective did what Mauvais could not do in a matter of moments, and it was the Sentry who was stalemating that same character. This must tell you something unless you are too biased to judge things on how they are.
Originally posted by Stoic
No one will be able to furnish you with these scan as it was only written when the author of the book was explaining what type of power Thul was. The character that looked like Odin explained that he had to remain in hiding or he too would be devoured. Thul said that he had killed Gods and raped angels..... this is proven later in the book as bilions of souls escaped from his body, and were absorbed into Pitts.All the same with all of his power he was not able to put Pitt down with one blast which is a hell of a feat in itself. Thul was a world devourer, and proved to be more powerful than Mauvais.
The Collective did what Mauvais could not do in a matter of moments, and it was the Sentry who was stalemating that same character. This must tell you something unless you are too biased to judge things on how they are.
That is a fine attempt at some ABC logic. Had you not been the laughing stock of even other Pitt members here, you might've been able to gather some support.
Alas having raped and killed someone with no feats off panel is hardly akin to gathering several thousand mutants' powers. Nor are the fights comparable when MAUVAIS HAD TO FIGHT GODS OF THE OLD NORTH and the collective simply caught Alpha Flight off guard. That's ignoring context buddy, and you've been warned for it before.
And now as we get to the supposed power of this Thul-character, did he ever fight anyone on-panel? Or fight someone else with something even slightly resembling feats?? I fail to see how simply having absorbed somebody means you're powerful...
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That is a fine attempt at some ABC logic. Had you not been the laughing stock of even other Pitt members here, you might've been able to gather some support.Alas having raped and killed someone with no feats off panel is hardly akin to gathering several thousand mutants' powers. Nor are the fights comparable when MAUVAIS HAD TO FIGHT GODS OF THE OLD NORTH and the collective simply caught Alpha Flight off guard. That's ignoring context buddy, and you've been warned for it before.
And now as we get to the supposed power of this Thul-character, did he ever fight anyone on-panel? Or fight someone else with something even slightly resembling feats?? I fail to see how simply having absorbed somebody means you're powerful...
You have a problem with blurting I see, I wonder how this effects you in your normal everyday life, ALPHA FLIGHT WAS WIPED OUT IN SECONDS fact. Alpha Flight went to confront the Collective fact, Alpha Flight was not bum rushed by the Collective fact, Sentry stalemated the Collective fact... I was not warned by any authority on anything fact... you were.
You also believed that Drax could beat Pitt, you also believed that Wolverine would give Pitt a decent fight.... I have have trouble believing that you would give Pitt the win over Venom, or Mr Hyde, so your opinion doesn't mean much concerning this. What are you contributing to this thread besides your opinion? You have brought no concrete evidence to this thread. Mauvais did not beat the indian Gods he errected a barrier to stop them from entering his dimension, he could not actually beat them in combat.
All you seem to do is instigate, without adding anything... The Collective beat Alpha Flight with ease, and if they could have won, they would not have been beaten as quickly as they were.... I'll go slow for you ok... if the Thing snuck up to the Hulk and layed into him while he was unawares the Hulk would go flying into a building get up and rush back to beat the hell out of the Thing. Alpha Flight was not snuck up on, they went to the Collective, told him to surrender, stood there like they could take what he dished out, but could not, and were therefore flattened. The Avengers were getting busted up by the Collective, and it was the Sentry who was the only one with the power to challenge him. This is what happened, now tell me again that I WAS MAKING THINGS UP.
Your still ignoring a hell of a lot of context 😬
and your wrong as in 1789, Mauvais fought the Gods and that era's Soressor Supreme which apparently was the Ancient One which resulted in Mauvais being imprisoned.
Also didn't you say Spider-Man was stronger then Aquaman?...uh huh
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Oh I also like to remind people Llan also had a part in Alpha Flight's death. Read the last sentence
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Originally posted by Stoic
You have a problem with blurting I see, I wonder how this effects you in your normal everyday life, ALPHA FLIGHT WAS WIPED OUT IN SECONDS fact. Alpha Flight went to confront the Collective fact, Alpha Flight was not bum rushed by the Collective fact, Sentry stalemated the Collective fact... I was not warned by any authority on anything fact... you were.You also believed that Drax could beat Pitt, you also believed that Wolverine would give Pitt a decent fight.... I have have trouble believing that you would give Pitt the win over Venom, or Mr Hyde, so your opinion doesn't mean much concerning this. What are you contributing to this thread besides your opinion? You have brought no concrete evidence to this thread. Mauvais did not beat the indian Gods he errected a barrier to stop them from entering his dimension, he could not actually beat them in combat.
All you seem to do is instigate, without adding anything... The Collective beat Alpha Flight with ease, and if they could have won, they would not have been beaten as quickly as they were.... I'll go slow for you ok... if the Thing snuck up to the Hulk and layed into him while he was unawares the Hulk would go flying into a building get up and rush back to beat the hell out of the Thing. Alpha Flight was not snuck up on, they went to the Collective, told him to surrender, stood there like they could take what he dished out, but could not, and were therefore flattened. The Avengers were getting busted up by the Collective, and it was the Sentry who was the only one with the power to challenge him. This is what happened, now tell me again that I WAS MAKING THINGS UP.
Here's the kicker.
- Venom and Mr.Hyde has not beat thousands of bugs who sent the Kree army packing, nor have they killed someone who stalemated the Surfer.
- Okay, what about the gods of the great north? Do you know how strong they are? Those guys are sky fathers easily.
- Alpha Flight lost against the Collective, nobody's disputin' that. This does not matter, Mauvais was not defeated by Alpha Flight, nor did they ever come close to beating him.
- What the hell does the collective? Or even Alpha Flight matter here? When I said that they defeated him, they did not do it using their own power. CONTEXT MOFUGGA, DO YOU USE IT?
- I'm still waiting on ALL THOSE FEATS FROM ALL THOSE OTHER CHARACTERS WHOM THUL SUPPOSEDLY KILLED AND ABSORBED.
- Where on the tier list would you place Pitt? If you'd place him on it at all.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Your still ignoring a hell of a lot of context 😬and your wrong as in 1789, Mauvais fought the Gods and that era's Soressor Supreme which apparently was the Ancient One which resulted in Mauvais being imprisoned.
Also didn't you say Spider-Man was stronger then Aquaman?...uh huh
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Oh I also like to remind people Llan also had a part in Alpha Flight's death. Read the last sentencehttp://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/MysticArcana_TheBookofMagic2007_23.jpg
I was the first to admit that I was wrong when I saw how strong that DC made Aquaman become, not that this has anything to do with this thread.
Mauvais fought the Ancient One and was imprisoned.... what did I say about Mauvais challenging a God and his chances of winning?
You ignored everything that I said and only used some antiquated info to try to discredit me, what was your point in bring this to the thread?
Mauvais is not the Ancient One, Pitt has also shwon that he is highly resistant to magic, so this will go to fisticuff, and Mauvais lacking in skills of the H2H nature gets skinned.
Mauvais had trouble putting a group down that the Collective put down in seconds, and Alpha Flight was not bum rushed, they just couldn't take what the Collective could dish out. Yet Sentry held his own against the Collective iirc. What context did I miss, because if you add anything to it that did not happen you would be lying.
As long as Llan was within the Collective when he fought Sentry none of that matters.
Guys, guys, I see where we went wrong.
Stoic is basing his entire (faulty) argument off of the fact that Pitt is a trans-level character. Beating the Collective or Sentry would take 2 seconds for Pitt. He did after all take a whole blast from the super duper, featless, angel-raper. And he did kill the super scary demons with long teeth and claws.
Originally posted by Stoic
Mauvais fought the Ancient One and was imprisoned.... what did I say about Mauvais challenging a God and his chances of winning?You ignored everything that I said and only used some antiquated info to try to discredit me, what was your point in bring this to the thread?
Mauvais is not the Ancient One, Pitt has also shwon that he is highly resistant to magic, so this will go to fisticuff, and Mauvais lacking in skills of the H2H nature gets skinned.
Mauvais had trouble putting a group down that the Collective put down in seconds, and Alpha Flight was not bum rushed, they just couldn't take what the Collective could dish out. Yet Sentry held his own against the Collective iirc. What context did I miss, because if you add anything to it that did not happen you would be lying.
As long as Llan was within the Collective when he fought Sentry none of that matters.
and the Gods of the Arctic working together...huge difference
I ignored what again? Your hurting your own arguements.
Except Ancient One needed help from skyfather beings and they couldn't even kill him
Once agian bravo for ignoring the context once again.
Are you serious? You do realize Llan has and shown to manipulate events.
Alright I'm done for good, your the only one who believes your cause.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Here's the kicker.- Venom and Mr.Hyde has not beat thousands of bugs who sent the Kree army packing, nor have they killed someone who stalemated the Surfer.
- Okay, what about the gods of the great north? Do you know how strong they are? Those guys are sky fathers easily.
- Alpha Flight lost against the Collective, nobody's disputin' that. This does not matter, Mauvais was not defeated by Alpha Flight, nor did they ever come close to beating him.
- What the hell does the collective? Or even Alpha Flight matter here? When I said that they defeated him, they did not do it using their own power. CONTEXT MOFUGGA, DO YOU USE IT?
- I'm still waiting on ALL THOSE FEATS FROM ALL THOSE OTHER CHARACTERS WHOM THUL SUPPOSEDLY KILLED AND ABSORBED.
- Where on the tier list would you place Pitt? If you'd place him on it at all.
You are so close to being reported it's not even funny, whenever someone challenges you all you can do is start swearing at them and trying to intimidate them with your juvenile tactics. If you did not read what i wrote about Thul too bad, and if it means so much to you why not just find the book that Urgrul Thul appeared in? You will know exactly what happened... once again I will go slowly for you, my point in bring Thul into the thread was to show his magical resistance, I've alreeady proven that he can survive anything that Mauvais could physically throw at him. Were you able to understand that or should I explain it in terms that you do understand?