Originally posted by fangirl101
LMAO. Thor got knocked on his ass by Superman. Wondy has NEVER went down to Superman that fast. She's definitely at least as Strong as Thor. Picked up any Wondy books lately?
Thor should be stronger- In the superman fight Superman stated Thor was the strongest foe he'd EVER fought, and that would include wonderwoman...wouldn't it?
Thor also has the ability to temporarily enter warrior madness, which amplifies his strength x10.
a warrior madness thor would almost certainly outclass WW.
Note also that *with mjolnir* thor is able to swing and hit at multiples of lightspeed, so WW may not have a speed advantage here. Thor's durability is likely a lot higher, as well- I'd give him the edge in pure H2H.
Originally posted by Space M ummyYou don't read WW do you. I HATE when someone gives an opinion without knowing the facts. Superman said that Thor MAY be. not that he was. please. Reread JLA Avengers. And Wondy has blocked projectiles faster than Thor can throw his hammer. And it's not just about how fast he can throw. She can out maneuver him. Thor doesn't just enter WM. and Her lasso PWNS his warrior madness. It would instantly calm him down. I don't think Thor's durability is a lot higher. He's been knocked out by a bullet under the skin. And In pure h2h, she WTF pwns him. No top tier brick can beat Diana in hand to hand alone.
Thor should be stronger- In the superman fight Superman stated Thor was the strongest foe he'd EVER fought, and that would include wonderwoman...wouldn't it?Thor also has the ability to temporarily enter warrior madness, which amplifies his strength x10.
a warrior madness thor would almost certainly outclass WW.
Note also that *with mjolnir* thor is able to swing and hit at multiples of lightspeed, so WW may not have a speed advantage here. Thor's durability is likely a lot higher, as well- I'd give him the edge in pure H2H.
Originally posted by fangirl101
You don't read WW do you. I HATE when someone gives an opinion without knowing the facts. Superman said that Thor MAY be. not that he was. please. Reread JLA Avengers. And Wondy has blocked projectiles faster than Thor can throw his hammer. And it's not just about how fast he can throw. She can out maneuver him. Thor doesn't just enter WM. and Her lasso PWNS his warrior madness. It would instantly calm him down. I don't think Thor's durability is a lot higher. He's been knocked out by a bullet under the skin. And In pure h2h, she WTF pwns him. No top tier brick can beat Diana in hand to hand alone.
i agree with you, but thor is not a brick
Originally posted by jalek moye
i agree with you, but thor is not a brick
Originally posted by fangirl101
And Wondy has blocked projectiles faster than Thor can throw his hammer. And it's not just about how fast he can throw.
I didn't say just "throw." I said swing and HIT. There are scans in the respect thread of thor SWINGING the hammer at 2x lightspeed. not throwing it. Wonderwoman's reaction time is NOT in excess of lightspeed.
Has wonderwoman blocked projectiles? sure. Has she blocked projectiles going faster than lightspeed, backed by someone of Thor's level of strength? hell no, and it's silly to say so.
She can out maneuver him. Thor doesn't just enter WM. and Her lasso PWNS his warrior madness.
Heralds can't outmaneuver thor, Gods can't outmaneuver Thor. WITH THE HAMMER, Thor is a lot faster than you give him credit for.
And this is H2H. The hammer is an h2h weapon as thor uses it to hit with. Using the lasso to tie him up and cause him to quit is not. If you allow that use of the lasso, then all of mjolnir's powers are in play as well- this includes lightning, godforce, matter manipulation, and BFR. Mjolnir trumps the lasso any day of the week.
I don't think Thor's durability is a lot higher. He's been knocked out by a bullet under the skin.
absolute BS. Thor is completely immune to nuclear weapons, can hang out in the sun, Stalemated Zeus for MONTHS without stopping and has taken direct shots from celestials without being KOed. Your "bullet" assertion is complete PIS, if it even exists, as there's a lot more scans of Thor being unaffected by bullets than the reverse.
And In pure h2h, she WTF pwns him. No top tier brick can beat Diana in hand to hand alone.
Thor is a lot more than simply a brick, like the hulk. He has innate superspeed, that's greatly enhanced when he has the hammer. Thor's durability is clearly higher (unless you have scans of diana surviving shots from beings that own skyfathers, or walking in the sun with no damage) and his strength is on par if not higher. You can't even make the "she's more skilled" argument, since thor has been alive for millennia and led wars against other gods.
Advantage Thor.
Thor was hurting superman and even had him weary after he finally won. Show me WW hurting superman to the same affect. Thor is stronger then WW and has more durability. Speed goes to WW while MA is close with maybe WW having the edge. It's pretty cut and dry and Thor out classes WW the majority of the time. H2H only just makes it close and allows WW to take some.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thor was hurting superman and even had him weary after he finally won. Show me WW hurting superman to the same affect. Thor is stronger then WW and has more durability. Speed goes to WW while MA is close with maybe WW having the edge. It's pretty cut and dry and Thor out classes WW the majority of the time. H2H only just makes it close and allows WW to take some.
There is a lot to be said about whats going on in this battle forum. Wonder woman combat speed is greater then sueprman, its a known fact.
Wonder woman is just as strong as thor even though thor would whip that ass if they got into a fight (it would be a great fight though but thor is just to damn versatile.).
I honestly would give the edge to wonder woman when it comes to who is the best fighter out of the two but I dont think that the gap is huge.
Thor is fast enough to hang with wonder woman in a fight but the thing to think about is that thor carries and walk around with a weapon that could one shot a planet with one strike; has wonder woman ever been hit with that kind of power.
Some people might disagree but I consider wonder woman and superman as equals and I give thor the edge over both because again he is to versatile and powerful.
People who is saying that wonder woman cant give surfer or thor a fight is on crack and know nothing of the character.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thor was hurting superman and even had him weary after he finally won. Show me WW hurting superman to the same affect. Thor is stronger then WW and has more durability. Speed goes to WW while MA is close with maybe WW having the edge. It's pretty cut and dry and Thor out classes WW the majority of the time. H2H only just makes it close and allows WW to take some.
Stop using that fight when a comic wouldnt allow superman to lose even against odin. I'm surprise thor lasted as long as he did against superman.
Originally posted by Enyalus
With CIS on, sure there are.Wonder Woman's held her own against him before. If they're both going all out, I don't see him taking her down easily either.
That was my secondary point.
No, not even with CIS on.
Thanos is screaming for them to get off. In a situation where Superman did not want any of them to touch him, they would all be on the floor bleeding.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
No, not even with CIS on.Thanos is screaming for them to get off. In a situation where Superman did not want any of them to touch him, they would all be on the floor bleeding.
Not all but I agree SOME. Iron man has great combat speed and has actually did things in nanoseconds and I know for a fact that thor would hit him without much trouble.
By the way, why didnt you respond back to my pm.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Every since it was stated that she is faster than Superman in a fight you been disrespecting her. Should I pull up all the times you said before that she can fight DBZ style?
When the **** has that EVER been stated? Oh, and I want something concrete, not your interpretation of a feat.
Originally posted by Enyalus
With CIS on, sure there are.Wonder Woman's held her own against him before. If they're both going all out, I don't see him taking her down easily either.
That was my secondary point.
How do u figure, if both are fighting at full capcity I don't see why supes would suddenly forget he has speed....and on that note every on-panel depiction of there speed has always eluded to him>Her in regard to h2h speed.