Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Ahh, well what about the title question?
Partially. While scattered elements of Christ's resurrection story are unique to Christianity, the overriding archetype is typical of resurrection myths that predate Christianity by millenia, and extend through numerous cultures, even those not directly linked with one another.
Callahan, a far better author than debater, likes to focus on the Mystery Religions, which were contemporaries of Jesus rather than predecessors. They're easier to put aside for Christians because it can't be said that Christianity stems from them. But rather than see the natural tendency to borrow, copy, and "one-up" competing religions of the times by including similar themes, claims, etc. Christians simply pass them off as meaningless in the evolution of their own religion.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
All the video proves is that skeptics are boring people.
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Not all, certainly. But Callahan, yes. He's about as animate as a corpse.
Whether educated or not, we all have opinions regarding the resurrection of Christ Jesus. Fact of the matter is, the video debate posted by Grand-Moff-Gav is wholly sufficient to dissect truth from fiction. Both participants -- Gary Habermas and Tim Callahan -- have written books on the topic. Having said this, both are well, well aware of their arguments. None had a brain-fart or a bad day. The resurrection of Christ Jesus is true or false. For something as absurd as "resurrection" to embrace, Tim Callahan should have had the upper-hand! Instead, Gary Habermas, won the debate. For those who have studied the origin of Christianity, the outcome of this video debate, served as no surprise. No pun intended, honestly.
Faith Under Fire: Part One
Faith Under Fire: Part Two
"And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain" (1 Corinthians 15:14 KJV).
Ushome, it's cool to disagree, but try not to insult our intelligences. You essentially just said that a brief debate that can fit on a couple youtube clips ends the debate on the validity of Jesus' resurrection story. Even the most credulous BS-detectors should raise an eyebrow at that.
Yeah, they've both written books. Doesn't make them good debaters. Habermas owned the sh*t out of Callahan because he controlled the debate, covered what he wanted to instead of his opponent, and put Callahan on the defensive in situations where he was guaranteed to look silly. Great debating. But still just a fragmented youtube clip. If you think that settles the matter, I'm sure we could find an opposite-leaning video to refute it. It wouldn't be proof either, but it would be an equal amount to this.
"virtually all scholars agree"
Haha, ask any, they will most likely either say they don't know or they believe so. Only christians will say the latter.
Someone mentioned Hercules in this thread. That's actually a really good well known example. ****ing disney has a cartoon about Hercules.
Son of a God that performed miracles (in this case super strength) and eventually ascended into heaven.
And considering the fact that all these other stories have just as much evidence as the Bible, either they're all true, or none are. Obviously they aren't all true, anyone can see how ridiculous just one is, so why believe another?
Originally posted by lord xyzAnd considering the fact that all these other stories have just as much evidence as the Bible, either they're all true, or none are. Obviously they aren't all true, anyone can see how ridiculous just one is, so why believe another?
I can't believe Christianity has endured this long.