Originally posted by BUSTER1no, spiderman had previously shown limits, Werewolf by night hadn't, we knew he had super strength, not to what extent. people are saying it's PIS because they have an idea of how strong a werewolf should be, yet however according to these comics werewolf by night is just as strong as hulk.
I think the man in the last panel is Banner. WBN beating Hulk is absolute PIS. On par with Spidernman beating Firelord unconscious
Originally posted by Trackz
no, spiderman had previously shown limits, Werewolf by night hadn't, we knew he had super strength, not to what extent. people are saying it's PIS because they have an idea of how strong a werewolf should be, yet however according to these comics werewolf by night is just as strong as hulk.
As I had previously mentioned WBN lost a fight to an ordinary old man with a silver blade. Jack did manage to tag the old man back. If he had 100ton strength he would've taken the ol man apart. WBN isn't that tpe of strength level, and is nowhere strong enough to overpower an enraged Savage Hulk.
Originally posted by BUSTER1as I previously mentioned, the man was a werewolf hunter, he was using silver, basically this is equivalent to yo usaying superman is weak for falling ot kryptonite 😬
As I had previously mentioned WBN lost a fight to an ordinary old man with a silver blade. Jack did manage to tag the old man back. If he had 100ton strength he would've taken the ol man apart. WBN isn't that tpe of strength level, and is nowhere strong enough to overpower an enraged Savage Hulk.
Originally posted by Trackz
as I previously mentioned, the man was a werewolf hunter, he was using silver, basically this is equivalent to yo usaying superman is weak for falling ot kryptonite 😬
"And I've read a story where WBN gets owned by an ordinary old man with a knife. The old man was not faster or more ferocious than Logan. That fight between WBN and Hulk was PIS. Savage Hulk, despite being low in intelligence, would know that he needed to break WBN's choke hold, and he easily is strong enough to do it. Logan has plenty of impressive showings against many powerful foes. if a fight between the 2 took place in the early 80's I would probably have said 5/5-but Wolverine has had insane showings since the that put him a class above Mr.Russell. The same can be said of Sabretooth-if they fough now, Creed would take WBN apart"
This was my previous post-my point was, that Wolvie, with ihis speed would land several hits in the time the ol man could land 1. He would land a lots of hits which would render Jack unconscious before he can heal up-and as I said WBN isn't anywhere near strong enough to over power an angry savage Hulk.
Originally posted by BUSTER1
"And I've read a story where WBN gets owned by an ordinary old man with a knife. The old man was not faster or more ferocious than Logan. That fight between WBN and Hulk was PIS. Savage Hulk, despite being low in intelligence, would know that he needed to break WBN's choke hold, and he easily is strong enough to do it. Logan has plenty of impressive showings against many powerful foes. if a fight between the 2 took place in the early 80's I would probably have said 5/5-but Wolverine has had insane showings since the that put him a class above Mr.Russell. The same can be said of Sabretooth-if they fough now, Creed would take WBN apart"This was my previous post-my point was, that Wolvie, with ihis speed would land several hits in the time the ol man could land 1. He would land a lots of hits which would render Jack unconscious before he can heal up-and as I said WBN isn't anywhere near strong enough to over power an angry savage Hulk.
silver weakens werewolves, which is why the man was able to best werewolf by night...not complicated
not at all a fight with which you could base this fight off since it's entirely different unless wolverines claws are now made of silver.
apparently werewolf by night IS strong enough to take on savage hulk, its not PIS unless he has lower showings to contradict this, again, which haven't been presented. we have were wolf by night beating sabretooth, taking on a wendigo and somehow beating hulk is PIS. doesnt make much sense.
Originally posted by Trackz
silver weakens werewolves, which is why the man was able to best werewolf by night...not complicatednot at all a fight with which you could base this fight off since it's entirely different unless wolverines claws are now made of silver.
apparently werewolf by night IS strong enough to take on savage hulk, its not PIS unless he has lower showings to contradict this, again, which haven't been presented. we have were wolf by night beating sabretooth, taking on a wendigo and somehow beating hulk is PIS. doesnt make much sense.
PIS Hulk fight apart, what is to stop Logan slashing WBN apart when he can't avoid slashes from an old man , who won't be anywhere near as fast as Logan. Jack may heal heal after a major adamatium slashing by Wolvie by he would be knocked out beforte he healed-and that is a victory for Wolverine. Feel free to point out the faults in my logic
Originally posted by BUSTER1WBN has superior range, in other words he'll likely get in more hit than wolverine, so whats to stop werewolf by night from slashing wolverine up, and for the last time silver weakens werewolves like kryptonite weakens superman. werewolf by night is stronger, BFR is an easy option, as well as slashing wolverine p since he can do this as easily as wovlerine can.
PIS Hulk fight apart, what is to stop Logan slashing WBN apart when he can't avoid slashes from an old man , who won't be anywhere near as fast as Logan. Jack may heal heal after a major adamatium slashing by Wolvie by he would be knocked out beforte he healed-and that is a victory for Wolverine. Feel free to point out the faults in my logic
Originally posted by BUSTER1
PIS Hulk fight apart, what is to stop Logan slashing WBN apart when he can't avoid slashes from an old man , who won't be anywhere near as fast as Logan. Jack may heal heal after a major adamatium slashing by Wolvie by he would be knocked out beforte he healed-and that is a victory for Wolverine. Feel free to point out the faults in my logic
Tell me something.. When did that fight with the old man happen?
Besides, it's not like Wolverine doesn't have low showings either. It's easy to focus on low showings and mark everything else as PIS. Nice going there!
Originally posted by RhinocerosTrue but there's NOWHERE NEAR enough evidence to say WBN is even NEAR C100.
Tell me something.. When did that fight with the old man happen?
Besides, it's not like Wolverine doesn't have low showings either. It's easy to focus on low showings and mark everything else as PIS. Nice going there!
The guys been KOed by spiderman...twice... while coasting in neutral.
He said pretty straight forward that he didn't have a chance of matching Wendigo.
He's been manhandled by Grey Hulk.
Moonknight's rendered him unconcious I think on several occasions.
Creed even said something to the effect of "and, maybe stronger" giving the impression that WBN wasn't even much stronger, or at least noticeably even compared to a creed who at the time had a 5 or so ton lifting max.
And the most impressive feat I can think of him doing is kinda stalemating Ghost Rider in h2h but that was in full fledged Werewolf mode.
I mean, I think he's held his own with Drac in h2h too iirc but I think it's cause he's like Dracula's version of Kryptonite.
Originally posted by jinzin
True but there's NOWHERE NEAR enough evidence to say WBN is even NEAR C100.The guys been KOed by spiderman...twice... while coasting in neutral.
He said pretty straight forward that he didn't have a chance of matching Wendigo.
He's been manhandled by Grey Hulk.
Moonknight's rendered him unconcious I think on several occasions.
Creed even said something to the effect of "and, maybe stronger" giving the impression that WBN wasn't even much stronger, or at least noticeably even compared to a creed who at the time had a 5 or so ton lifting max.
And the most impressive feat I can think of him doing is kinda stalemating Ghost Rider in h2h but that was in full fledged Werewolf mode.
I mean, I think he's held his own with Drac in h2h too iirc but I think it's cause he's like Dracula's version of Kryptonite.
he said that, and yet fought him off for an extremely long time.
I know in their most recent fight, WbN was about to kill moonknight until he received outside help, but again how does durability define strength?
sabretooth acknowledged werewolf by nights strength advatage, I'm not sure I've seen sabretooth do that to many, for a proud man like himself to acknowledge WbN is stronger means something, doesn't it?
I havent read Werewolf by Night to know these things, but based on the scans presented he should be able to win.
SO your argument's that while he has 100 ton lifting strength he has a 5 tonner level of durability? That makes sense. 🙄
Quite frankly he's been restrained by simple chains he couldn't break, and he's been held in captivity by regular bars.... Tossing Ghost Rider around is the best strength feat he's got.
Originally posted by jinzinno, Im asking since when did durability correlate to strength?
SO your argument's that while he has 100 ton lifting strength he has a 5 tonner level of durability? That makes sense. 🙄Quite frankly he's been restrained by simple chains he couldn't break, and he's been held in captivity by regular bars.... Tossing Ghost Rider around is the best strength feat he's got.
could this be PIS, or has this happened on more than one occasion.
How about since ever... if someone has class 100 strength it's quite presumable that they have class 100 durability to go with it. Just comes with the territory of having that kind of sinew. Fact of the matter is that outside of a couple of fights Wolverine even has better strength feats than WBN. 😬
And no it's not PIS it's happened several times.
Originally posted by jinzinusually yes, but werewolves have never been stated to have superhuman durability, same way a bullet will pierce a person just as easily as it will a bear...and Im not sure wolverine came close to choking out the hulk or keeping up wit ha wendigo has he?
How about since ever... if someone has class 100 strength it's quite presumable that they have class 100 durability to go with it. Just comes with the territory of having that kind of sinew. Fact of the matter is that outside of a couple of fights Wolverine even has better strength feats than WBN. 😬And no it's not PIS it's happened several times.
Originally posted by TrackzWolverine has beaten wendigo 🤨
usually yes, but werewolves have never been stated to have superhuman durability, same way a bullet will pierce a person just as easily as it will a bear...and Im not sure wolverine came close to choking out the hulk or keeping up wit ha wendigo has he?