So it's December 25th
And most of us know about the zeitgeist story of the 3 kings in orion's belt aligning with sirius and pointing to the point the sun will rise on this day.
Now is our chance to see if it's true.
For some reason I can see no stars tonight. So I'm hoping someone else will be taking pictures or something.
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Suuuuuuuure it is...
It is the truth Gav. I am A Christian but there is so much evidence ,Historical and Scientific, that proves it is the origin. We,me and you, have talked and I know you are knowledgeable on The Church. You must know that Christs Birthday is unknown. There is a reason why Dec. 25 was picked. Its the Astronomical Birth of the New Sun.
Dec 25th was chosen to coincide with an existing holiday.
Why would the story of the three kings, written hundreds of years prior to the designation of Dec 25 as Jesus' birthday, have anything to do with this Zeitgeist theory of orien's belt?
What you seem to suggest is that Dec 25 was chosen because in the Gospel story the Three Wise Men is a reference to an astronomical event and therefore pinpoints Jesus' birth- but how can this be because if the alignment occurs in Winter, why are there lambs in the fields and shepherds sleeping outside?
Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Dec 25th was chosen to coincide with an existing holiday.Why would the story of the three kings, written hundreds of years prior to the designation of Dec 25 as Jesus' birthday, have anything to do with this Zeitgeist theory of orien's belt?
What you seem to suggest is that Dec 25 was chosen because in the Gospel story the Three Wise Men is a reference to an astronomical event and therefore pinpoints Jesus' birth- but how can this be because if the alignment occurs in Winter, why are there lambs in the fields and shepherds sleeping outside?
You just proved my point! Why would the Celebration of Christs birth coincide with the birth of the "New Sun" in winter? When Christians know that he wasn't ,according to the Gospel.
The Church was very Astrological in the Beginning. Look at St.Peters Basilica at The Vatican. Its all set up to cast shadows at Different Astrological times on different parts of the Vatican. In the Beginning , The Roman Church amalgamated the Pagan religion with the Christian so as to make it more palatable for the Pagan masses. The Roman Church changed the face of it but its still the same. Instead of a god of this and a god of that The Catholics have a St. for this and a St. for that. They still "Chant" prayer(Very un Christian) and have incense burning as to raise the prayer to the Heavens . These are all Pagan influenced ideas and the Pagans were very Astrologically based.
And You and some people act like Zeitgeist is all BS but do the research.
If you look into the other Religions The stories are very similar because they predate Christianity. Abraham was from Babylon, His Father was a High Priest Enlil . This is Theological fact. The story's that Abraham told about Yah-Wah or GOD was from an Older time. Noah and the flood for example, Utnapishtum(A Mesopotamian story) is Virtual the same but changed to fit the Yahweh belief. Even the story of Mosses, which we no from Archaeological evidence that he existed, But the story is the same as Sargon the 1st of Akkad(A Mesopotamian story predating Moses instead of floating down the Nile in a reed basket Sargon floated down the Euphrates in a reed basket, Look into it, its the same story) So anyway it makes perfect sense for the Church to have adopted the "New Sun" as the Date to celebrate The birth of the Messiah.
Oh dear.
The fact that that's a story associated with that date, and Christians adopted (or rather plagiarised) the story as well as the date, is enough to say "Jesus is Mithra Attis Horus The Sun."
If that's not enough, how about the fact that all these other solar messiahs have this attribute. Surely they came from somewhere. The stellar explanation is the only explanation other than coincidence. Unless you can give another, have a cup of stfu.