Dante (DMC 4) Vs Sephiroth (Advent Children)

He struck the barrier with his sword, and the ground around them cratered from the impact

Originally posted by Terryc250
I highly doubt Dante is stronger then Sephiroth strength wise, we've never seen even close to the limits of Sephiroths physical strength.

Hell, I would even say Dante is comparable to one of Sephiroths weak remnants, Loz, who are just a fraction of Sephiroths power.

Can anyone show me the size of the motocycle Dante lifts up?
Was it bigger then the AC motorcycles?
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Was the statue bigger then the tree Loz knocks down?
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Motorcycle Strength(@1:00)
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Strength of Yamato(he destroyed the stone without touching it)
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Dante knocks down stone monument with his fist(@:49)
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The tree was just tall

Dante stops Savior's Punch(@:13) (Notices he doesn't struggle)
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The Saviour feat is far more impressive than Sephiorth or his remnants, its enormous yet Dante does indeed stop it

Keep in mind that Saviour was weakened and basically just like dropped his fist down before passing out for a bit. The ground barely even cratored from it

The Saviour is still far far larger and far far heavier than that tree Loz pushed over. A momentum impact from the Saviours far heavier material, in a far larger form is still massive reaches beyond Sephiroths or Loz' strength.

But we've never seen Sephiroth have to exert his strength to do anything thus far, so the limits of his strength is completely unknown.

exactley why he would lose a strength contest in KMC forums, since feats is what gives them their strength level, if he has zilch, then he has zero strength credability.

But then a statement claiming "this is far beyond Sephiroth strength" is completely flawed because you don't know his limits.

By the credability of the forum, i.e no feat=no ability then Sephiroth is far outclassed by Dante, whether we know Sephiroths strength or not is no word about it, if he has no feats, then any debate for his strength defeating Dante is not credible and Dante due to feats being present, beats him in a strength match every time.

otherwise "Kain can beat Kratos in strength coz we dont know kains limits!!"

Besides the fact that Kain had like 5 games to show he has some strength but showed zero, while Sephiroth effortlessly even in his weakest form clashed swords and caved in concrete ground just from the impact, even his weak remnants showed strength feats above Kain, and Sephiroth was even stated the most powerful character in the FF7 where characters have lots of strength, it's safe to assume Sephiroth is no weak character strength wise.

not really 5 games is it, only 3 of those games you play as Kain and only one of those games you play as the latest and strongest Kain, the rest are the weaker kain who is not much greater than the typical dracula esque vamp.

Its stated he is the most powerful than does not mean anything to do with him being strong than Omega weapon or otherwise in lifting power. And Sephiroth remnants have shown greater strength feats than sephiroth so w/e....

Originally posted by Terryc250
Besides the fact that Kain had like 5 games to show he has some strength but showed zero, while Sephiroth effortlessly even in his weakest form clashed swords and caved in concrete ground just from the impact, even his weak remnants showed strength feats above Kain, and Sephiroth was even stated the most powerful character in the FF7 where characters have lots of strength, it's safe to assume Sephiroth is no weak character strength wise.

Originally posted by Terryc250
But then a statement claiming "this is far beyond Sephiroth strength" is completely flawed because you don't know his limits.

Sephiroth does not have the impressive strength feats that Dante has(that I am only recently aware of), so he must be assumed to be weaker than Dante is.

I never said there is no limits to Sephiroth strength, I said his strength is completely unknown so a statement claiming that so and so, is beyond anything Sephiroth is capable of is fallacy. Dante's greatest feats are swinging a motorcycle and blocking Saviours hand which he didn't put any force behind, he just dropped it down before passing out.

both feats more impressive than Sephiorths zero feats, but as TGE and K1 said.....the higher feat wins through.

I'm not arguing about feats, i'm arguing about your statement of "its far beyond sephiroths strength" when we don't have a clue on his stregnth to make such a statement. If you said ""its far beyond what Sephiroth has ever shown" then yes, because AC Sephiroth was only on screen for 10 minutes and hasn't really shown much.

For feats and this thread and forum what I said was exactley 100% true, it is far beyond his strength because assuming and whether its shown or not is irrelvent. For the basis of the debate, you were wrong, Sephiroth is far weaker than Dante and loses any strength debate instantly in this forum.

Originally posted by Terryc250
I never said there is no limits to Sephiroth strength, I said his strength is completely unknown so a statement claiming that so and so, is beyond anything Sephiroth is capable of is fallacy. Dante's greatest feats are swinging a motorcycle and blocking Saviours hand which he didn't put any force behind, he just dropped it down before passing out.

Originally posted by Terryc250
I'm not arguing about feats, i'm arguing about your statement of "its far beyond sephiroths strength" when we don't have a clue on his stregnth to make such a statement. If you said ""its far beyond what Sephiroth has ever shown" then yes, because AC Sephiroth was only on screen for 10 minutes and hasn't really shown much.

As of his strength now, which is all we can use, yes it is.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Savior weighs multiple tons, probably in the 100 ton range, and what you are saying is he became dead weight and fell on Dante, that is still more weight than Sephiroth has shown to lift, much more.

Yes has "shown" to lift, but thats different then saying stating that Sephiroth is incapable of doing. Weighing 100 tons doesn't mean your hand would way even 1 ton, if you weigh 150 lbs and you put your hand on a scale, it wouldnt' even weigh 1 lb. If you drop your fist on your little brother, it's not much of a feat if he stopped it. It's a feat if your little brother stops a punch that you actually put your force behind.

You can see by how there was hardly even a crator from his fist landing on Dante, Sephiroth makes bigger crators just from the air impact from his sword clashing.