Dante (DMC 4) Vs Sephiroth (Advent Children)

That was dead weight, and all his momentum was being forced onto Dante.

Dante's feat is greater.

As for t3h crater, well it is probably because Dante absorbed some of the impact.

In comics, when Superman(Earth 2) caught Doomsday's fist who was pushing down on him, no crater was caused, is Sephiroth stronger than Doomsday?

He basically just dropped his fist onto Dante before passing out..

Sephiroth just clashing swords in his weakest form were cratering iron, Sephiroth in his weakest form striking a barrier that cratered concrete ground, just from the shockwave alone. Cratering those grounds requires atleast tons of weight, and Sephroth was doing it just from his sword shockwave, and in his weakest form.

Originally posted by Terryc250
He basically just dropped his fist onto Dante before passing out..

Sephiroth just clashing swords in his weakest form were cratering iron, Sephiroth in his weakest form striking a barrier that cratered concrete ground, just from the shockwave alone. Cratering those grounds requires atleast tons of weight, and Sephroth was doing it just from his sword shockwave, and in his weakest form.

Well, if it's dead weight, the weak force of hit has nothing to do with that as it was actually FALLING on Dante. Think about multiple tons weighting brick falling on your head... and that "brick" was stopped and pushed away.

How do we know his fist weighs "multiple" tons? If Saviour weighed 100 tons like ThunderGod said, then his fist would weigh much less then 1ton, about 500 lbs falling on Dante.

The whole of Saviours body was falling down, the fact only his hand hit dante does not take awy form the fact the weight of its body was still behind the arm of it....

His "hand."

That hand was connected to an arm, which is connected to a shoulder, which is connected to its torso.

And I never said 100 tons, I said it was within the 100 ton range, class 100, more than 100 tons. Although I can see now that I could have conveyed that better.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
His "hand."

That hand was connected to an arm, which is connected to a shoulder, which is connected to its torso.

And I never said 100 tons, I said it was within the 100 ton range, class 100, more than 100 tons. Although I can see now that I could have conveyed that better.

Doesn't mean he was blocking his entire arm, if he dropped his elbow down on Dante, you could say it closer to blocking the entire weight of his arm, but just his fist is not. Just like if you were to lift the front bumper of a car does not mean you lifted a cars weight, unless you lifted the entire thing from the middle carrying all sides.

Only his entire arm was above Dante, as was his shoulder, and his torso.

Being above doesn't matter unless it was directly above, it was still coming at an angle which means it does not equal the weight of his entire arm. He blocked the END of his arm which is his fist

lol, I like how you carry on trying to nit pick as long as you can to hold up an already dead argument, its obvious that the Saviour is falling down and the weight of the that fist is backed up by the arm and torso falling as well, the fist is not falling by itself, as the others have said, its "dead weight", meaning the whole of the body is behind that hand, regardless of the angle, it was pushing down on Dante.

Why is this even being debated? its a ridiculous thing to be debating when its already been established Sephiroth loses every strength comparison by default.....

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol, I like how you carry on trying to nit pick as long as you can to hold up an already dead argument,

Of course you like it. This is what you always does with Kain. 😆

lie

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol, I like how you carry on trying to nit pick as long as you can to hold up an already dead argument, its obvious that the Saviour is falling down and the weight of the that fist is backed up by the arm and torso falling as well, the fist is not falling by itself, as the others have said, its "dead weight", meaning the whole of the body is behind that hand, regardless of the angle, it was pushing down on Dante.

Why is this even being debated? its a ridiculous thing to be debating when its already been established Sephiroth loses every strength comparison by default.....

What would cause more destruction? If they both "dead weight" fell on the statue?

or

The second one would because its taking the full weight of the entire truck whereas the first one doesn't take the fullweight of the entire truck.

Its not really knit picking when its true. Knit picking is the things you do to try to up-play Kain, or try to downplay Sephiroths feats.

Thats a truck falling from the sky?

The saviour was falling TOWARDS Dante, the angle of him is not important if hes falling towards Dante, in the instance of a truck however, only the head of the truck would actually hit the statue, the weight behind the head would be irrelvent because the back of the truck would just break off anyway likely before it hits the statue.

give me an example of your lie in the second piece?

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol, I like how you carry on trying to nit pick as long as you can to hold up an already dead argument, its obvious that the Saviour is falling down and the weight of the that fist is backed up by the arm and torso falling as well, the fist is not falling by itself, as the others have said, its "dead weight", meaning the whole of the body is behind that hand, regardless of the angle, it was pushing down on Dante.

Why is this even being debated? its a ridiculous thing to be debating when its already been established Sephiroth loses every strength comparison by default.....

Thats what I think in half the debates I have with him, ime trying to make a relevent point and he goes off on a tangent talking about sometihng highly irrelevent anyway.

You gotta give him a break, really. Somebody has to try and salvage this sorry situation:

Sephiroth loses to Kil'jaeden
Sephiroth loses to Archimonde
Sephiroth loses to Kain(Caine?)
Sephiroth loses to Dante
Sephiroth loses to Sargeras
Sephiroth loses to a goddamn hedgehog.

Really now, this Sephiroth person was shown to slice massive amounts of falling concrete like paper. I think that alone indicated great strength.

What next? Sephiroth loses to church boy chorus?

Or a sharp sword made up of the destructive lifestream energy?

altho Church boys are powerful....dont underestimate the power of song

the game engine for DMC 4 didn't allow a cinematic crater to be shown. maybe.

but seriously things aren't looking so go for Sephiroth.
from what i just heard he just lost to shadow the goddamn hedgehog.

i think of this because most of his fanbase only have assumptions and the shitastic "ability to destroy a entire solar system."(the supernova attack which is a serious plot hole because he can do that then why didn't he just blew up the planet to begin with self rather using a one week meteor BS instead)

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
You gotta give him a break, really. Somebody has to try and salvage this sorry situation:

Sephiroth loses to Kil'jaeden
Sephiroth loses to Archimonde
Sephiroth loses to Kain(Caine?)
Sephiroth loses to Dante
Sephiroth loses to Sargeras
Sephiroth loses to a goddamn hedgehog.

Really now, this Sephiroth person was shown to slice massive amounts of falling concrete like paper. I think that alone indicated great strength.

What next? Sephiroth loses to church boy chorus?