John McClane VS Martin Riggs

Started by Rogue Jedi33 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
You're being rediculous, again.

Do cops always have to use their guns?

Do firemen always use an axe?

Why wouldn't a modern day ninja use a gun? This isn't feudal Japan; guns are more effective.

Using "pwned" when you clearly haven't is silly.

My dear lord, do your research. Ninja live a certain lifestyle, they have a code they follow. They do NOT use guns. Google, FTW.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
My dear lord, do your research. Ninja live a certain lifestyle, they have a code they follow. They do NOT use guns. Google, FTW.

Wow. Can you post these irrefutable facts you googled?

BTW, Snake Eyes disagrees with you. Now that's a proper "pwned", see?

Originally posted by Robtard
Wow. Can you post these irrefutable facts you googled?

BTW, Snake Eyes disagrees with you. Now that's a proper "pwned", see?

Ninja History:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja

Ninja weaponry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja

I see no mention of them using guns. Blow gun, but thats it.

It's funny you're claiming RJ and anyone who disagrees with you of fanboy-ism when you're clearly the one being a fanboy, Robtard. You think that just because McClane is more 'awesome' you think he can win 10/10. That's ridiculous, and a stupid way of going about trying to prove McClane wins. Personally, I'm actually a bit of a McClane fan, always have been. But even I can see McClane lacks the overall pure skill to take out Riggs, McClane couldn't beat Maggie Q without a ****ing truck, and if he couldn't beat Maggie, he couldn't beat Riggs, except this time — McClane doesn't have an SUV to splatter his enemy, hence, he's screwed.

I haven't read any of this thread, but I think, though Riggs is cool, McClane takes it. I mean, for crying out loud...he beat a ninja in Die Hard 4. Not sure if anyone considered that yet.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I haven't read any of this thread, but I think, though Riggs is cool, McClane takes it. I mean, for crying out loud...he beat a ninja in Die Hard 4. Not sure if anyone considered that yet.
Not a Ninja haermm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not a Ninja haermm

You are not a ninja!!!

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
It's funny you're claiming RJ and anyone who disagrees with you of fanboy-ism when you're clearly the one being a fanboy, Robtard. You think that just because McClane is more 'awesome' you think he can win 10/10. That's ridiculous, and a stupid way of going about trying to prove McClane wins. Personally, I'm actually a bit of a McClane fan, always have been. But even I can see McClane lacks the overall pure skill to take out Riggs, McClane couldn't beat Maggie Q without a ****ing truck, and if he couldn't beat Maggie, he couldn't beat Riggs, except this time — McClane doesn't have an SUV to splatter his enemy, hence, he's screwed.
By Rob's line of thinking, he'd probably agree with Sadako that Rambo can beat Riddick in a knife fight. 🙄

My argument was that it wouldnt happen at all anyway due to Riddick being an alien. And if Rambo had McClane's luck, he definitely WOULD win.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Jet Li is 5'6, a far cry from a midget, and is a martial arts MASTER.

FYI Maggie Q is also 5'6. McClaine got beta by a midget GIRL. 😆

Riggs was BEATEN by a midget and saved by his girl Murtaugh.

McClane was beaten on for a minute and crammed a whole SUV up her bum, KILLING her.....by HIMSELF. Single Handedly..

And Li was the master "quick enough to avoid bullets"....that was shot dead by Murtaugh.... 😕

Murtaugh...is old...dammit

Originally posted by Robtard
Who cares though when the facts are as follows:

McClane didn't "got beat" as you say, he took a beating and came back to continue the fight, world of ****ing differenc, son.

That mark of a true champion.

Unlike just having your partner shoot Joshua, Jet Li, the African in an un-diverse/creative way when the fight gets too tough.

Originally posted by Placidity
I view Jet Li as a much more skilled and tougher opponent than Q. Infact he could probably take 2-3 Q's on at the same time.

Come on, seriously, Maggie Q may have some MA skills, but she is totally weak. Like McClane said, shes just a skinny ninja chick.

This is a good clip of all Jet Li's feats... he's in another league imo.

YouTube video

1. Just a 1v1 fight against a guy with some MA knowledge.

2. Is held at gunpoint by two guys, surrenders his gun and then takes them both out with a kick each after he takes their pistols apart. Speed and strength feat here. Maggie Q wouldn't have a chance in hell in the situation, and she's sure as hell not strong enough to knock them out.

3. Some more solo fights vs a group.

4. Dodges a bullet.

5. The final fight. Probably the important note to take here is that he keeps fighting even after being impaled... I'm having a hard time imagining Maggie Q doing the same.

Technique x speed x applied body weight = Painnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!

Girls bang away just fine when they know their shit.
Have one at Maggie Q's weight group train in even a decent jab, and have her throw it in your face, if you dont believe me.

Or ask Laila Ali for a left hook.

But he just chose not to avoid the bullets Roger fired though, huh...?

Whos to say how she react, impaled... Both sexist and unwise to assume that she couldnt handle that 'just because she was a girl'.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Murtaugh...is old...dammit

And the fact that he would have died of old age by now, or is in some nursing home for LA cops, will affect the outcome for sure.
As Riggs' traditional 'get out of anything free' card will not be there.

(Unless the fight in that nursing home, of course, in which case Murtaugh, at the inevitible point in the fight where Riggs is facing death for sure and needs his usual 'Rogering'.... all Roger can do is throw a half full colostomy bag at McClane.

And that wouldnt be easy to do either, due to the alzheimers and a few strokes since LW4... 😛

Hell, Maggie Q the Ninja could have beaten LW 4 Riggs minus Roger's cover. He was too slow and "too old for this shit" by his own admission then.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Ninja History:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja

Ninja weaponry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja

I see no mention of them using guns. Blow gun, but thats it.

That's your best retort? We're discussing a fictional character in an action movie, but your rational, then Snake Eyes can't be a Ninja if he's ever used in one of these Vs. fights.

Also as mentioned, this isn't feudal Japan.

Try again?

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
It's funny you're claiming RJ and anyone who disagrees with you of fanboy-ism when you're clearly the one being a fanboy, Robtard. You think that just because McClane is more 'awesome' you think he can win 10/10. That's ridiculous, and a stupid way of going about trying to prove McClane wins. Personally, I'm actually a bit of a McClane fan, always have been. But even I can see McClane lacks the overall pure skill to take out Riggs, McClane couldn't beat Maggie Q without a ****ing truck, and if he couldn't beat Maggie, he couldn't beat Riggs, except this time — McClane doesn't have an SUV to splatter his enemy, hence, he's screwed.

I'll tell you what's funny, I didn't claim RJ was a fanboy, he claimed and re-claimed I was one, in some attempt to support his opinion. Maybe get your shit straight BEFORE you comment, Pigeon Toes.

As far as McClane and the ninja-girl, it's been retold and over and over, she didn't beat him, she beat on him, he took it and came back.

Word.

"Mc-Claaaane clan aint nothing ta f*** with...

Mc-Claaaane clan aint nothing ta f*** with...." 😛

💃 💃 💃

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
By Rob's line of thinking, he'd probably agree with Sadako that Rambo can beat Riddick in a knife fight. 🙄

If you're going to take on the heirs of superiority, as you like to do, you should at least first be able to counter "Rob's line of thinking".

I don't think Rambo could beat Riddick in a knife fight, neither did Sadako, poor tactic, there.

It should be noted though, Rambo was far more impressive than Riddick considering he's only human, while Riddick has his enhanced abilities to rely on. Give Rambo the Furion speed, agility, stamina and strength, he could have taken out the entire U.S.S.R. in 1988.

😂 And he'd still have to drink all their vodka just to wind down in time to stop himself killing western europe, just from his natural exubrance...

Originally posted by Robtard
That's your best retort? We're discussing a fictional character in an action movie, but your rational, then Snake Eyes can't be a Ninja if he's ever used in one of these Vs. fights.

Also as mentioned, this isn't feudal Japan.

Try again?

Hey, Gabriel wore all black too, maybe HE'S a ninja!!! And Johnny Cash!!! And Mad Max!!!

It is quite obvious McClaine was just talking shit trying to keep Gabriel on hold so the wizard can trace the call.

Clear enough?

And find me a movie where a ninja uses a gun. Yeah, thats a CHALLENGE.