Wolverine vs X-Men

Originally posted by Warrior18
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I said I wasn't too knowledgeable...........that doesn't mean I don't know that Logan has a decent record against Hulk, who by the way is superior to abomination and has kicked his arse more times than I care to count. Please stop talking BS. At the very least the Logan respect thread is just around the forum corner which has showings of Logan doing well against the Hulk.

The fact is Logan doesn't have to prove himself against the Hulk (as he has done) in order for me to know he would beat a brick like abomination. I don't know why you keep bringing the Hulk up.

Respect threads are nice for seeing some of the cooler high end showings of a character. But they are just that, high end showings which generally arent even permitted. If they were, Spider-Man would be in the 80 ton range...

Anybody read the lastest issue of Wolverine Manifest Destiny?

Originally posted by redhotrash
Respect threads are nice for seeing some of the cooler high end showings of a character. But they are just that, high end showings which generally arent even permitted. If they were, Spider-Man would be in the 80 ton range...

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Clearly you haven't been to many respect threads.

Originally posted by redhotrash
40 X-Men? Wolverine shouldnt be able to take any 15 X-Men at a time, including the scrubs. Xavier has been at least reasonably careful about which students to move to the field team.

They have lost prospective when it comes to the character and forgotten what made the character great wasn't that he could beat all the other X-Men including the likes of Storm, Iceman, and Polaris at the same time. It wasn't that he could beat the likes of the Silver Surfer or Magneto with relative ease. Until reciently he couldn't beat anyone and everyone.

What made him popular wasn't that he was invincible. It was because he was a bad ass little guy with a big heart.

wolverine takes them all with one hand behind his back........a hand which is holding a bottle of canadian ale of course.:Laugh:

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Gambit managed to get the drop on a severally weakened Wolverine in Danger Room Exercises after he cheated... that's the closest hes come to beating Wolverine in a fight.

Contest of Champions 2?

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
Contest of Champions 2?

You could be right, I'd have to check though because I remember Wolverine kicking Gambits ass and Rogue interfering.

Originally posted by jmc247
No way Wolverine jobber aura is off the scales these days. I am waiting for his rematch against Galactus, this time I think Wolverine will take it.

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His jobber aura is off the scales these days? Quickly, name the last conclusive win Wolverine had over anyone of merit in standard contuity.

Seriously... Wolverine has scarcly won a fight in the last three years.

Originally posted by jmc247
They have lost prospective when it comes to the character and forgotten what made the character great wasn't that he could beat all the other X-Men including the likes of Storm, Iceman, and Polaris at the same time. It wasn't that he could beat the likes of the Silver Surfer or Magneto with relative ease. Until reciently he couldn't beat anyone and everyone.

What made him popular wasn't that he was invincible. It was because he was a bad ass little guy with a big heart.

And thats how it should be still. But you have a handful of bad writers and a legion of ignorant fanboys ::glances around at some Wolverine threads::

Originally posted by jmc247

What made him popular wasn't that he was invincible. It was because he was a bad ass little guy with a big heart.

Damn straight.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No, I just didn't like the way the conversation was going with most people saying that anyone of the x-men in that picture could take Logan for the majority.

Cyclops could
Storm could
Collosus could
Havoc could
Longshot could (due only to his probility power )
Iceman could
Polaris could

Originally posted by complexbrother
Cyclops could
Storm could
Collosus could
Havoc could
Longshot could (due only to his probility power )
Iceman could
Polaris could

I disagree only with Longshot.

Originally posted by namorsubby
wolverine takes them all with one hand behind his back........a hand which is holding a bottle of canadian ale of course.:Laugh:

No.

i say he could take them out.....if they all suddenly got drunk and retarded. the only ones he could propably beat is longshot and collosus...but thats just my opinion

I'd shed no tears if he skewered Storm or Cyclops.

Originally posted by stormultt
i say he could take them out.....if they all suddenly got drunk and retarded. the only ones he could propably beat is longshot and collosus...but thats just my opinion

Can Wolverine cut Colossus' steel body?

Originally posted by redhotrash
I'd shed no tears if he skewered Storm or Cyclops.

Of course you won't because it will never happen.

Originally posted by redhotrash
I'd shed no tears if he skewered Storm or Cyclops.

storm wouldnt allow that shit and i like cyclops but lately..eh...he deserve to be beaten up.

Originally posted by stormultt
storm wouldnt allow that shit and i like cyclops but lately..eh...he deserve to be beaten up.

She wouldn't have a choice if she isn't prepped for the fight. Wolverine could easily take down several X-men if he suddenly started slashing real quick and they were not expected him too. That being said, once the fight is on, there's really no way he's going to K.O. the rest of the team. Also, it seems almost a joke on Millar's part...he has Wolverine get owned by everyone in Enemy of the State including Elektra and Daredevil yet he beats the shit out of 39 X-men, and then fights Jubilee for 90 minutes??? What...the...****???!!! Is Millar just making some crude joke or something?

Wolverine isn't just a "little badass with a big heart" - he is a skilled fighter who has his place fighting guys like Roughouse, Bloodscream and some other low-level villians. He was cool when he used his skills instead of healing factor and bones all the time. But you know, just because he can't take Galactus or Sliver Surfer doesn't mean he should be bested by Mystique wielding a chair. Jason Aaron sucks for that reason alone - and also having Wolverine blow himself up just to infiltrate a military base. He really shouldn't have to do that to get in...

Seems like you have extremist Wolverine haters who want to see Wolverine reduced to a normal guy who can barely fight, but hey, he has a big heart and tries his best..

Then you have people who enjoy watching him heal instantly absorb ridiculous amounts of punishment for no good reason other than that he can..and also you have a few that think he can really beat Magneto...

But isn't there a middle ground that everyone can be happy with? Manifest Destiny seems to be taking Logan into a direction where he uses skills and not powers to win fights..that's a version of the character that I would personaly enjoy reading. I'm thinking though, that if Wolverine aquires the ability to chi-amp or something, people are going to be pissed. It almost looks as if his training is going to put him above the likes of Shang Chi and Iron Fist without question. I just can't see that going over well with some people...

Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
It almost looks as if his training is going to put him above the likes of Shang Chi and Iron Fist without question. I just can't see that going over well with some people...

If anything they are trying to get him close to them in skill level, because according to Manifest Destiny he's not.

Originally posted by Mindset
It doesn't look that at all.

If anything they are trying to get him close to them in skill level, because according to Manifest Destiny he's not.

Where are you getting that? Some little kid thinks that but really these warriors of the black dragon look better than Shang Chi and Iron Fist and if Wolverine takes them by himself then he will just look insane as far as skill goes. I'm not saying that it will happen for sure just saying what it looks like. I actually think this can turn out really stupidly and I'm not even set that it's an accurate portrayal of Wolverine. Seems rather inaccurate actually.