Originally posted by Sado22
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Joker in TDK took on distracted bats and only had the element of surprise because of the dogs that were simultaneously attacking Bats.
Even after that (when Bats got up after knocking him on the floor), Joker attacked Batman with enough force to prevent him from launching a counterattack. He also managed to knock him down and pin him to the ground helplessly. In fact, he could have killed him had he wanted to.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Marv had incredible luck there. If the last cop's machine pistol hadn't jammed, Marv would have been dead.
Doubtful, he survived multiple machine gun fire, it stands to reason a pistol round or two wouldn't kill him, unless maybe a head-shot; that's neither here nor there, though.
You do realize that Miller wrote Marv as a nigh-indestructible killing machine on purpose, right?
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Even after that (when Bats got up after knocking him on the floor), Joker attacked Batman with enough force to prevent him from launching a counterattack. He also managed to knock him down and pin him to the ground helplessly. In fact, he could have killed him had he wanted to.
Hahahahaahaahahahaaa, good one.
Originally posted by Robtard✅
Doubtful, he survived multiple machine gun fire, it stands to reason a pistol round or two wouldn't kill him, unless maybe a head-shot; that's neither here nor there, though.You do realize that Miller wrote Marv as a nigh-indestructible killing machine on purpose, right?
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
Even after that (when Bats got up after knocking him on the floor), Joker attacked Batman with enough force to prevent him from launching a counterattack. He also managed to knock him down and pin him to the ground helplessly. In fact, he could have killed him had he wanted to.
Actually the fight went like this
Batman fights off dogs while Joker beats him with a lead pipe. Batman knocks Joker away. Batmans sonar cowl thingy goes on the fritz and while he's distracted, Joker shoves Batman into a net and then gets him into a lock him under a plank of some sort
Originally posted by Prime#Joker did what he had to to gain the upper hand. If it hadnt been for the knife thingies in Batmans gauntlet, he would have been killed/defeated/whatever.
Actually the fight went like thisBatman fights off dogs while Joker beats him with a lead pipe. Batman knocks Joker away. Batmans sonar cowl thingy goes on the fritz and while he's distracted, Joker shoves Batman into a net and then gets him into a lock him under a plank of some sort
Originally posted by Final BlaxicanI'm just saying that all movie characters bring their shit to a fight. Bat brought his armor and gadgets, Joker brought his dogs and a knife. "If this person hadn't had this or that" is bullshit.
If the Joker and Batman fought each other and neither had any gadgets or help at all Batman would kill Joker 10/10 times. So what's your point?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'm just saying that all movie characters bring their shit to a fight. Bat brought his armor and gadgets, Joker brought his dogs and a knife. "If this person hadn't had this or that" is bullshit.
You're missing the direct issue; is Joker a bad-ass fighter or just a sloppy brawler who knows how to wildly swing a pipe and lift his leg for a kick? From what we see in TDK, he's more the sloppy brawler.