Lucifer Morningstar vs. Destiny of the endless

It's debateable whether Lucifer can take on Destiny which is why I made this thread. Who takes it?

I'd say Lucifer since he defied Yahweh's "destiny" for him and wandered to the void for all eternity.

Destiny.
Even Lucifer himself is bound by his book.

Lucifer, probably.

It's hard to debate purely conceptual entities, such as Destiny. ermm

I loved the Destiny/Lucifer exchange.

And I think that scene made it fairly clear that straight up even Lucifer can't take Destiny.

Didn't Lucifer finally break the bounds, and that's what impressed YHWH?

Originally posted by Astner
Didn't Lucifer finally break the bounds, and that's what impressed YHWH?

But that does not necessary equate that he could defeat Destiny.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's hard to debate purely conceptual entities, such as Destiny. ermm

agreed

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I loved the Destiny/Lucifer exchange.

And I think that scene made it fairly clear that straight up even Lucifer can't take Destiny.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I loved the Destiny/Lucifer exchange.

And I think that scene made it fairly clear that straight up even Lucifer can't take Destiny.

The fcuk if it did.

Originally posted by Blight
Do you have any scans? I'd love to see that.

The dude who collapses dimensions by entering them, or a guy chained to a book.

Hm.

At least Destiny would know ahead of time that his ass was about to be kicked.

Originally posted by Enyalus
The dude who collapses dimensions by entering them, or a guy chained to a book.

Hm.

At least Destiny would know ahead of time that his ass was about to be kicked.

Lucifer collapsed that particular dimension because God wanted to keep him from entering it.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Lucifer collapsed that particular dimension because God wanted to keep him from entering it.

I thought that it was because it was a particularly vulnerable dimension (not as stable as others). But I knew there was a specific reasoning behind it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
The dude who collapses dimensions by entering them, or a guy chained to a book.

If you put it that way:

Abraxas or LT

The dude who collapses multiverses by merely approaching them, or a guy who is bound by a set of rules by TOAA. (LT has NO willpower, unlike all the other abstracts. He only carries out the judgment given by TOAA)

Lucifer.

If Michael, Lucifer, and Gabriel were the Presence's very first creations then they *predate* Destiny, because they *predate* the DC omniverse itself. Neither of the endless were created before creation but afterwards instead.

Lucifer went against the Presence's wishes to merge with him. So, in essence he beat his father's destiny that was laid out for him and chose another route of his own free will. Lucifer is infinite will personified.

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Lucifer went against the Presence's wishes to merge with him. So, in essence he beat his father's destiny that was laid out for him and chose another route of his own free will. Lucifer is infinite will personified.

They were both outside of creation at the time. Destiny at that point really didn't matter. Nor did Lucifer have infinite willpower during that (his power came from Yahweh's creation, which no longer existed as Yahweh's.)

Books of magic for the win i say

it clearly depicts that death will be the last entity in the universe
( after she takes destiny).... thus lucfier can not do anything to change or remove himself from destiny

urgo destiny wins be default

Originally posted by rougeredmage
it clearly depicts that death will be the last entity in the universe
( after she takes destiny)

Does it now?